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@lotd proprietary driver did solve the mouse cursor issue. Black screen happened after I removed the Linux partition although I installed the grub bootloader in a completely separate partition
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@tahnik ah didn't read that part.. Skip read x)
Did you do uefi install? If so, you should have a windows boot manager entry in boot entries :p
Else it has overriden mbr, which means you'll need to rebuild it.. :)
Bootrec /fixMbr if I remember correctly.. :) -
@lotd yeah, I have that on uefi but grub is indeed overriding it.
bootrec is what I tried first. That didn't work.
I had to "bcdboot C:\Windows" to finally make it work.
I might still reinstall Windows because this doesn't look clean at all. I can boot to Windows directly but I can still see Ubuntu in boot menu. It's tingling my ocd :( -
@ddulic I used elementary for about 6 months. It loses it's stability over time imo
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@tahnik nooo, don't tell me that :( I just did a full swap to Elementary :'(
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@ddulic hey! Don't be sad. Maybe it was a different case for me. Keep using it, it's pretty awesome. Just don't immediately update your kernel when it gets out. You should be fine :)
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@tahnik kinda limited on knowledge here, so correct me if I off.
But grub overriding the windows boot loader sounds a bit odd to me as it should just put a file next to it and register it with the uefi firmware then set it as default, as far as I'm concerned..
Perhaps something funny to do with secure boot? Albeit that should have been ironed out by the boot file being Digitally signed... -
@tahnik Thanks for the tip! What distro do you use?
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@lotd first of all secure boot was turned off.
I think when installing Linux, grub sets itself as default bootloader. It normally gets removed when the Linux boot partition is removed. But this time I didn't and I don't know why. -
@ddulic the longest Linux distro I've used is fedora. I quite like it as it has the bleeding edge updates and backed by enterprise company. Also, I like Gnome better than unity.
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@tahnik check your esp partition, it's probably still there.
It should be a fat32 partition at usually around 512mb.. :) -
@tahnik I used Fedora for about a year, after that I used Korora (which is a better version of Fedora) but I need a Ubuntu distro sadly since that is what I use at work, and I am tired of typing apt-get in Fedora or dnf in Ubuntu :/
On the grub discussion - if grub is installed on the Windows EFI boot partition it wont get removed. Just mount usually /dev/sda2 (the efi parition and delete grub from there) -
@lotd I did manual partitioning to make sure I can remove that separately. I removed the esp but it is still there. I will try again something tomorrow after I come home from work
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@ddulic π
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@tahnik perhaps in your uefi interface, chances are you can delete the grub entry from there :p
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@tahnik use supergrubdisk, that shit fixes everything related to boot.
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Linux works fine on my gaming PC other then zombie the intel sad raid array for windows boot.... but to boot into bios and search other boot media to get back into windows but As far as the OS is concerned it worked flawlessly with minimal setup and runs, Ruby, Python, php, and Go so much I don't know easier then my windows machine. Plus bash scripting is awesome.
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Oh god dude I got the same problem this week-end !!! I tried to install arch linux and gnome 3 on sdb. No mouse and GUI SUPER SLOW. I removed arch linux. Then I decided to install ubuntu on virtualbox. But I cant enable unity 3d to get a smooth gui with 60 fps. Sooo I tried to install ubuntu on my sdb without the option to turn off the secure boot. GUI SUPER SLOW AGAIN but I have a mouse !!! XD. I think this is because I installed ubuntu on sdb. Then I removed AGAIN and install on sda (ssd). And I got the same problem. Soooo I install nvidia drivers and it works .o/ but I didnt try if I have a sound problem
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@tahnik @Supernerd you can always set nomodeset in grub to boot without gpu accel :)
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Yeah. When I decided to move from my MBP back to Ubuntu, I first made a list of laptop models that had first class Ubuntu support, researched them online, then narrowed down by the specs that I wanted.
Kinda sad there were very few that supported Ubuntu without any issues.
FWIW, I ended up going with the Dell Latitude E5470 after upgrading the RAM and changing to an SSD. Really happy so far. -
@corscheid You can't blame the hardware when it's quite popular. Gtx 1060/70/80 is the mainstream nvidia gpu right now. Realtek ALC is the most popular integrated sound card used from laptops to desktop.
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@honeyBadgerJeff Move to Linux anyway :) its good to learn it!
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@honeyBadgerJeff If you have never used linux that I would suggest give it a try using a virtual machine software like Vmware Player.
I think everyone should have the basic knowledge of linux as it's gives you a bigger picture of how an operating system works inside. Windows being a commercial OS encapsulates all these information that is quite useful for developers.
But yeah if you have modern hardware, just use a VM rather than dual booting it. New machines are powerful enough to run an OS in vm.
Good luck! -
@tahnik will do :)
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I spent 3 days and one all-nighter to figure out how to install fedora on my new high end notebook and nvidia isn't installed properly yet but hell I have no regrets.
Linux is like that crush you have, even if she/he has something nasty you dislike, the rest is so fucking perfect that you just don't care.
Looks like windows is your crush π -
@tahnik Try another distribution then π I tell you it's worthy. I have tested many versions of distros and their different GUIs and some of them are running smoothly without any problems concerning installing some required software. My advice is Linux Mint (or if you are new to Linux, then ZorinOS) - in my opinion these are the best.
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@superuser I prefer Windows too... but don't be like mac and linux users, we're free to choice what is the best for us :)
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@tahnik I would only recommend to try only the live version of Linux for a beginner, and if you don't want to mess up your only computer.
Another dev on my team just got a new machine. Before he came in today I made two separate USB installers and ...
So I decided to give Linux a try again.
Created live usb. Prepared myself to go through all the hassles at the beginning.
Booted in live USB. I can't see mouse cursor.
Searched in google, apparently a common problem with GTX 1070/1080 graphics cards.
Installed proprietary nvidia drivers with keyboard only. Took me about 20 minutes.
Finally managed to get the mouse cursor and install ubuntu. Time to boot and smell the fresh air of linux again.
Sound card doesn't work. Even the integrated mobo sound card doesn't work. Looked for a solution, found the bug in lunchpad but not solution yet. Everyone recommending to buy an external sound card.
I can't code without music. Decided to remove linux.
Booted back to Windows and removed linux partition. That fucked up my bootloader although I installed linux's efi loader completely separately.
Now I am sitting in front of my computer, with black grub screen, while trying to make a Windows 10 usb with my 7 years old broken laptop.
Next time I see a rant about Windows 10 that glorifies linux, I swear I'm gonna smack your face over standard TCP/IP
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