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Microsoft is investing in Git, VSCode, Electron, Github, Bash-on-Windows. Things that decentralize and help prevent lock-in.
Apple is taking away the only universal cross platform graphics system (OpenGL), locking developers into Metal, and taking away our escape keys.25 -
Postman: We will stop supporting our Chrome app. Please download our "Native" app for better performance.
No motherfuckers.. Go die, alone, while your fucking family watch you bleed to death helplessly.
Electron is not native, don't mix true native development with lazy ass electron. Fuck you. A native postman would've been around 15MB in size but your "native" installer is 68MB so shut the fuck up and don't call it native or I will stick my native dick in your fucking throats.
I develop native apps So yeah, I'm pissed when web devs are starting to call electron and JS as native desktop apps... They are not... Now fuck off you smelly cunts.40 -
I got board and decided to make a weather app.
I have designed everything except the font which is Open Sans.
The app will be created on Electron and will be my first entry into that world.
It is currently in the design phase but thought it might be nice to share it's development with you guys.
I hope you like it and as always feedback is more than welcome.
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WHY THE ACTUALL FUCK DO PEOPLE PUT JQUERY IN EVERY FUCKING PROJECT EVEN IF IT IS A FUCKING ELECTRON APP AND EVEN WORSE WHY FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DO THEY MIX VUE AND JQUERY JUST WHYYY 😢13
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!rant, a success story.
I made a tool for a live streamer I like, for free. Something to find highlights in a VOD based on the chatlog.
It took me around 15h to make. It is a very simple electron app, the "valuable" code is ~70 lines.
I wasn't sure he would even bother to try it.
Anyways, I send it to him. 10 minutes later, the guy tells me that "this is amazing! You just saved me hours of derushing my streams ❤️"
That's great already, but it does not end there. A few minutes later he asks me "I know other streamers that would love it, can I share? And can I add you in our private discord?"
I have now a direct access to some of the best youtubers/streamers in my country 🤩.4 -
Now I am not a web dev but I just stumbled upon Electron and envied all web devs.Seems fun being a web dev
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Intel's new CPUs are faster, so your text editor can be based on a slower version of chrome, with a even slower bloated JavaScript framework. Congratulations!7
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Front end Developers proposal
My 'ATOM' needs your 'ELECTRON'.
I want to 'REACT' with you in all 'ANGULAR' positions
'JS' say yes!!2 -
WHY THE FUCK IS MORE AND MORE APPS BUILT WITH ELECTRON. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
FUCK.28 -
Imagine yourself exploring Medium, looking for some new awesome tools to try out.
You accidentally find the new, promising programming language. It called Blow. It promises itself to be “idiomatic”, “minimalistic”, “simple” and “handsome”. And it also compiles to Electron. You decide to give it a try.
It has its own package manager, simple and idiomatic – every package is “blow add” away. But it’s only three packages available: the “blowsay”, just like “cowsay”, the “this”, printing The Blow Manifesto and “blue”, which is simplistic, simple and minimalistic idiomatic handsome functional frontend framework built with simplicity in mind.
You want to build a todo app, so you type “blow add blue” and press enter.
Following Medium articles written by some guy wearing Ray-Bans, you managed to finally put a todo app together, after seven hours of straight up coding and fighting that simple and idiomatic syntax, trying to make it do what you need. Alright, it’s time to build it.
It has built-in task runner named “job”.
So you type “blow job todo”.
You spending three hours more doing “blow job this”, “blow job that”, trying to blow job everything you see. You’re tired and mad at those damn blow job hipsters created that. You literally suck at programming in that.
Everything falls apart. Things doesn’t work. And after another “ENOENT 0() 0x628 NOT_SUPPORTED”, you give up, admitting that you’ve really sucked at this.6 -
A critical vulnerability was detected in Electron and I urge all the devRantron users to update their app manually.
Please go to https://www.devrantron.com get the latest version which has the necessary patches.
Due to a request, we added compact mode in the app, which can be used to view a distraction-free mode of the UI. Notifications screen is a little bit more readable now. The read notifications are now greyed out.
Again, the auto update will not work for this version. Please manually update as soon as possible.
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Am I the only one who hates it that everything needs to be done in JavaScript nowadays?
Why can't you just start writing native software again? Why does every program need its own fucking browser engine and at least 200MB of RAM to do nothing but show and edit text?
I want to have fast and streamlined software again and use my resources for important things. So much software that is called fast or lightweight isn't either. It's just a little less heavy and slow than the software it tries to replace.
I don't use C all the time, but maybe looking into Qt instead of electron might be a start.
I had a project where I could convince my tutors to let me use C++ instead of JS and they were surprised how fast my application started even though it only consisted only of a empty window with a status bar. How far have we come that we even need to think about performance when opening an empty window on modern hardware?20 -
Due to popular demand (and we being unable to produce a smooth performance out of JavaFX), we decided to switch to Electron for devRantFX collab. It is now called devRantron!
Relevant collab: https://devrant.io/collabs/420025/
Under the hood we are using the following techs:
- React (ReactJS, Redux, React-Router)
- Jest
- ES6 and Webpack
- MaterializeCSS
If you have knowledge about React-native or VueJS, you should be able to understand the code (eventually). If you want to contribute let me know! I will add you to our slack group :)
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So as most of you know I was inspired to create a Minesweeper that allows continuing after you hit a mine.
Not sure if such a version existed before but... if it doesn't now it does.
https://github.com/allanx2000/...
Sorry @linuxxx Windows only... don't feel like learning Electron ATM or JavaFX... honestly I just wanted the games to continue after hitting a mine.
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On the job 😊. Told them I could code in the interview... and they believed me.
Now I'm our Director of Technology, and spend at least 8 hours a day building everything from GraphQL APIs to Electron apps. It's been an awesome journey!2 -
— Java is too heavy on resources! And desktop apps made with it give you this fugly, custom GUI that doesn't blend with your OS's UI in any way!
— What about Node and Electron?
— Oh, these are amazing!10 -
What NOT to create in 2018:
1. macOS note taking apps in Electron
2. Text editors in Electron
3. Pretty much everything in Electron
4. “Simple” and “minimalistic” programming languages
5. Web frameworks4 -
Have I mentioned lately how much I LOVE the stability of slack (and electron apps in general)?
Got notified of a new message in slack, clicked the channel and this is what I see, even after a restart. No content or UI controls of any kind are being rendered. No workspaces, no loading spinners, no errors, no warnings ... just nothing.
I don't give a fuck about your integrations, apps, giphy, video calls, search, threading ... I just want to read text.
Piece of fucking shit
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My boss wanted to hide the web application source code from the browser dev tools, he wanted to force the clients to use an electron portal for the application and block the access from any other browser.8
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I used to think Electron apps were gonna do great and make it more accessible for companies to produce high quality programs with ease.
Oh boy I was wrong. All it did is enable big companies with the ability to refactor all of their software to run 5 times slower, consume 10 times more memory and kill your battery 20 times faster.
I fucking hate all of this prototype fast optimize later bullshit. Can I get some value for my dollar? How come technology is just being degraded for the same of "ease of programming".
You save programming time but sacrifice end user time, cus our time just doesn't fucking matter.10 -
This morning:
SLACK HAS A DARK THEME! ALL GLORY TO THE AMAZING SLACK TEAM! SLACK FOR PRESIDENT!
This afternoon:
OH GOD THIS THEME MAKES ME WANT TO SCOOP THE EYES OUT OF MY SOCKETS THE FONT LOOKS UGLIER THAN THE PILE OF SKINFAT I SCRAPED OFF MY MOUSE ITS AWFUL I NEED HUGS SEND HELP
Thanks, companies, for trying, I guess.
I love dark themes, but the ones provided are often even worse than the light themes.
They go overboard with extreme black/white contrasts, pick a super weird hue of puke-gray, or certain elements are unreadable.
So, please, instead of wasting the time of your designers on something that's clearly too difficult for them.... how about just making it easy to create community themes for your app?
Especially if it's an electron app, how hard is it to add a config option to import a CSS file, and provide one template as an example?7 -
WTF is going on in web development nowadays that makes people ask me to compile C# projects to Electron?
Let that sink. I'm being asked to compile a C# project that can run as a beautifully integrated seamless *native* and lightning fast application... to JS so it would run as a *website* in the Electron *browser*. Am I the only one seeing how much cancer that is?10 -
TLDR, Fuck Electron
I love VSCode but damn I wish it wasn’t electron, same with discord and every other electron based application.
Also fuck those people that put TLDR at the bottom ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A SUMMARY IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ FUCK YOU31 -
I hate that trend of making things more lax in terms of implementation quality while writing it off with a simple but stupid "oh computers are faster now, users have the RAM, yadda yadda". Yeah but back in a day things were actually running pretty damn fast in comparison while doing it on hardware that is totally potato in comparison to what's used now. This trend eats away ANY gains we get in terms of performance with upgrades. It deprecated the whole notion of netbooks (and I kinda liked them for casual stuff), since now every goddamn one-page blog costs you from several megabytes and up to tens of megabytes of JS alone and lots of unnecessary computations. Like dude, you've brought in a whole Angular to render some text and three buttons, and now your crappy blog is chewing on 500 MB of my RAM for whatever reason.
Also, Electron apps. Hate them. Whoever invented the concept, deserves their own warm spot in Hell. You're doing the same you would've done more efficiently in Qt or whatever there is. Qt actually takes care of a lot of stuff for you, so it doesn't look like you'll be slowed down by choosing it over Electron. Like yeah, web version will share some code with your desktop solution but you're the whole reason I'm considering your competitor's lack of Electron a huge advantage over you even if they lack in features.
Same can be said pretty much about everything that tries to be more than it should, really. IDEs, for example, are cancerous. You can do 90%+ of what you intended to do in IDE using plain Vim with *zero* plugins, and it will also result in less strain on your hands.
People have just unlearned the concept of conscious consumption, it seems.28 -
uhh, what the hell... I opened 3 screenshots, not massive raw files. I wonder if they made the photos app based on electron as well huh
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Team: Qt doesn’t let us build the UX we have in mind. Web is the future.
Me: what do you guys recommend ?
Team: Electron! We vote for Electron!
Me: Alright, who know JavaScript here?
Team: ...9 -
Adobe will end-of-life Flash by 2020, and all big Browsers are joining this by disabling Flash features slowly
Let's make a petition to end-of-life Electron, it is basically Flash for Desktops and it is A RESOURCE-HUNGRY LAZINESS-PROMOTING PIECE OF SHIT THAT SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE REMOVED FROM THIS VERY PLAnet.. what do you think about that particular idea?
#StopElectron2017smhOkayAtLeastBy2020Please22 -
Electron apps are now “normal” and even considered “better” than native ones.
How the fuck did we get to this dystopian timeline of a situation.9 -
I can understand (to a point) when non-devs use meaningless tech "buzzwords", but please, as developers, can we just agree not to spout nonsense?!
"Electron is so amazing, it's such a lightweight framework!"
"Django is incredible, it's so agile!"
Agile is a family of development methodologies, and Electron is about as heavyweight as a desktop application can possibly get...10 -
My project at work (an electron/angular desktop app) has an exceedingly rare bug that causes it to crash-to-desktop while loading. Nothing about the bug makes sense, and there's no way to catch or detect it until the next run, and it happens 100% of the time for affected users.
There have been six confirmed cases so far (out of 500k+ users), and nothing linking them together. None of the fixes discovered by those users have worked for other affected users.
The worst part?
I was the first of those cases. I inadvertently fixed it for myself and haven't been able to reproduce it since.
I'm stumped!19 -
Behold, my 34 year old little baby (more like big daddy), the Acorn Electron. Still running fine but god is that BASIC awful.
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Follow up to yesterday’s “hybrid/cross-platform is shit” rant about Electron apps being blocked from the Apple App Store.
See the below image of the github issues template on the Electron repo, to file an issue for this problem.
Yes, this is such a common issue with their product, they’ve made it easier to file a github issue. Let’s not address the fact that there is a fundamental flaw in the approach they are using, let’s just make it easier to open a ticket while everyone waits to see if we are allowed to ship our app.
I’ve also heard talk that under some circumstances it’s possible for them to patch out the libraries causing issues. Apple provides tools to identify these libraries ... therefore Electron is doing fuck all to adresss this issue, and adopting a “wait until someone complains” style of approach.
A+
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OK heavy rant on 'modern' software development coming! --> don't take it to seriously though :-)
Electron... why does that shit exist? It is like stacking all the worst technologies available to mankind into an enormous pile of crap and polishing that turd to look like something wonderful. It is big, slow and overall AWFUL!
An example? ... Microsoft Teams :-( it burns your PC like fire and makes it squeal for mercy.
When a library/framework becomes the ultimate evolution of abstraction layer upon abstraction layer and it simply should stop to exist and a reset button needs to be pressed.
I would love to see some research on the real world environmental impact that all those shitty slow and bloated web technologies have.
Solution:
Software energy label!
C, C++ and Rust e.t.c. and all accompanying efficient UI libraries should be the only languages/implementations allowed to get a A, B and C label.
Python (without C libraries like Numpy), JavaScript and all those other slow interpreted scripting/Web API nonsense should get a D, E or F label by default.
Have fun!12 -
Out of hybrid apps (React Native, Electron, Native Script, etc) what would be the most popular for the industry, and the pros and cons?42
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The first time i made my own electron app, and saw it working and displaying live data the exact way i wanted it to be doing it.
At the same time, it was the first time i felt like been a real dev in all meanings. -
Dear fuckface,
Fuck you and your Electron gobbling up RAM like it's free food at a all-you-can-eat buffet. It's not. Please take your Electron and fuck the fuck off from my computer.
Sincerely, with a double middle finger and double middle toes,
PTH6 -
Software engineering gets more diverse every year with problems ranging from faking 3d shadows on 2d browsers to accurately mimicking chemical bonds on the electron level.
I guess we primarily will get advanced tools, to make more complex problems easier to tackle. Just compare manual punch card piercing pliers to the JetBrains tool chain.
Also I believe that the roles that developers embody will get even more diverse, people will have way more specific functions in their ecosystem.5 -
Dear developers who create an electron based app... Yes it's easy to make custom titlebars but please... Please please please give us the option to use the system default title bars... Looking at you itch!
(Also stop assuming everyone uses windows and use the minimise > maximise > close to the right of the window, not everyone does)8 -
Postman needs to learn it's god damned place.
No, I will never sign up for an account you god damn crappy wrapper for curl written in electron. Stop giving me banner ads. Fuck SO FAR off.14 -
Don't you just hate where we're going forward with these different JS frameworks and packages? WebPack, Electron and all the other ways we try to use JS for desktop development and a simple build of a tiny project taking 10 mins on an average spec core i7 machine, then overdosing on npm install since every frikn thing is now so modular you donwload a gazillion packages just to set up user authentication with a simple route manager in your app.
JavaScript is fine really for certain purposes. It's these other frameworks that try to modularize every single aspect of it that sucks. If there's anything called too modular, JS has reached it now. over-modularizing, and over-complicating everyday trivial tasks just to introduce yet another frikn package or framework.
Really missing the good'ol monolithic days of programming. I mean, modular is fine bro, but for godsakes draw the line somewhere!
#NoMoreOneLineModules3 -
It baffles me how underrated Electron is.
I'm not a fan of learning millions of different Framework, but I think that Electron is groundbreaking.
To give some context, both Slack and Discord are made using Electron27 -
Have you heard about the Embrace, Expand and Extinguish idealogy? lets think about it:
Javascript 5 (embrace) -> Typescript and Class syntax to Javascript 6 (extend) -> JS (extinguish) with WebASM.
Atom/Electron (embrace) -> Atom fork named "VSCode" (extend) -> Atom (extinguish) as it was developbed by Github company.
NodeJS (embrace) -> incompatible Node Windows fork with IE/Edge JS engine "Chakra" (extend) -> NodeJS (extinguish soon) with chaos of Typescript, Javascript 6 and Github.
"R" lang (embrace) -> incompatible SQL Server 2016 R lang extension (extend) -> R lang (extinguish soon).
Android -> CyanogenMod (embrace) -> CyanogenMod (extinguish) as M$ "sponsored" Cyanogen Inc to destroy CyanogenMod
Linux (prejudge) -> sponsors RedHat, Debian, SuSE, Alpine and Canonical/Ubuntu (embrace), forces unstable backdoored "systemd" -> Linux (extinguish soon)
Reusing the last image I did because I didnt wanted to make more OC stuff cos the few ++ gained arent worth it
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The Mac Studio with 128 GB integrated memory looks very interesting, I could finally run a third Electron app next to Slack and Spotify.6
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In today’s episode of hybrid/cross platform tools are shit:
Electron 6 and 7 use private API’s on Mac OS, violating apple App Store rules, and apps now can’t be submitted.
The responses also say that continued attempts to try to hide private api usage may result in developer accounts being terminated.
So by using electron, you may get your Apple developer account closed down permanently .... rightly so for picking electron in my mind
Source:
https://david.dev/you-cannot-submit...12 -
Sleep rant time!
As per usual, I got home late and tired, but wanted to keep on with learning to use Electron for a personal project. I setup everything, created the project and began to tinker with it.
One issue, the script I made was not loading, I spent like 30 minutes wondering why, reading docs (it was 12:40AM). When I was about to give in, I opened the index.html file and guess what? I IMPORTED THE SCRIPT AS A FUCKING STYLESHEET.
I laughed like 2 minutes, then shut the lid of my laptop and went to sleep and thought "Oh, so silly"3 -
Today I continued working on my File Encryption Frontend, nothing functional, yet!
The icons are selfmade, I think at least the folder icon is pretty.
Our programm will have something like a Zip-Explorer feeling too it, but our aim is still encrypting files to the unbreakable point.
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AAARGH ELECTRON IS SO FUCKING...decently pleasant to use?
So I've been working on a FPGA based synthesizer on a Xilinx Arty A7 board (that little Artix 35T chip is surprisingly capable), and since I hate typing commands into a serial stream for anything even decently complex just like any sane person should, I needed something to build a UI for controlling it and other synth projects while I make the Eurorack compatible enclosure and knobs and stuff. I chose Electron because they said it was simple and easy to make cool looking stuff, fast.
And they were right. In like two hours, with Electron and p5.js, starting from zero since I don't know jack about frontend, I had a pretty nice UI driving the hardware synth and effects modules. Not bad. I should use this more often.11 -
So we're making a desktop app using Electron and I got super excited when I ran the quick start thinking, "Wow, I'm actually going to develop a desktop app!"
But then the reality hit me that I'm still technically working with HTML and all and that I should be ashamed of calling myself a dev over this so how I'm cry-studying it's documentation while testing different stuff.4 -
To get myself into a better relation with golang, I started working on an electronless, cancer free, cross platform lightweight slack client.
I will be using the Fyne UI lib, and am already in love with it.
So far my mockup UI compiles into a fully portable >20Mb binary. the netcode shouldnt take any more than that, hoping to end up with a ~50Mb project.
TL;DR:
- theres gonna be a lightweight slack client available at one point
- fyne is awesome, get it at https://fyne.io/8 -
Just got an email with a new really nice douche-bag move from Postman to raise their prices again (this time for almost double) on their paid plans with excuse "it will help us deliver more of what our customers need from us."
Even though I've decided to look other way around for years on their electron-based garbage of bloated app, have not been a fan of their pricing 8$/month/user just for a simple feature such as sharing request schema and environment data.
This simply needs to stop and I'm seriously thinking about doing something about it. 🙄10 -
I was working on a project lately where I needed to convert an array of bits (1s and 0s) to floating numbers.
It is quite straightforward how to convert an array of bits to the simple integer (i.e. [101] = 5). But what about the numbers like `3.1415` (𝝿) or `9.109 × 10⁻³¹` (the mass of the electron in kg)?
I've explored this question a bit and came up with a diagram that explains how the float numbers are actually stored.
There is also an interactive version of this diagram available here https://trekhleb.dev/blog/2021/....
Feel free to experiment with it and play around with setting the bits on and off and see how it influences the final result.
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The JavaScript everywhere trend.
Sure it's possible and the language develops at a fast pace since ES6 but JS like any other language just is not suited for everything. I think JS will stay in server side automation and as scripting language for customisation but not how it is abused now in electron or even node.js.
There will be better solutions if they are not already there.10 -
Yes, today storage memory is "cheap".
But 100MB for an image flash tool
Wtf!?!
An arch iso is 600MB
Rufus on windows is ~1MB
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Godmotherfuckingshitpissballs fuck software development. Seriously wtf.
I learned c# and Unity for 4 fuckin years. Now I want to learn Electron and i just cant get it to fuckin work that motherfucker!
Installed node.js into a folder on my Desktop, git cloned the quick start app, copied the files, npm start and wow it starts.
ONCE.
It does not start anymore wtf? Also the stupid tutorials that I bought dont fuckin explain how to set it up properly wtf...
Doesnt help that im a windows noob and the guy in the tutorial is a macSnob.
Goddamnit I hate this phase of learning stuff. It fuckin sucks.
Also software development is around for like what? 30 years and electron is the best solution for GUI that people came up with? Fuck me.30 -
Just found out about Yue, a GUI library for Node.js, Lua and C++ (and owners of the "gui" package on npm).
It is so awesome! The RAM usage is so low compared to Electron! Of course it has its limitations and doesn't use HTML + CSS + JavaScript, but you can still build really good applications with it!
I'll show you what I'm making at the moment soon, so stay tuned!
Anyways I've built the same application in Electron and Yue, here's the comparison of the RAM usage:
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It all started with a simple shell script that ran a bunch of build commands.
Then it became a python script that ran a bunch of build commands because why not?
Now it's becoming an electron app with a jazzy UI.. that runs a bunch of build commands. Because why not! -
Electron....
Ok so recently I have seen many people hating on electron like here https://medium.com/@caspervonb/... ...
I understand that it may not be efficient or native whatsoever but it has specific use cases in which it is ideal. For example Discord (a teamspeak/Skype for gamers) is an amazing platform and they used to be web based. Eventually people wanted a desktop app for all these platforms so they used electron. i have used discords desktop app for 5 months and NEVER have I seen it go over 1 gig of ram or 3% of my cpu.
Electron isnt bad it just has specific use cases. Its like NoSQL, it's awesome but not for everything.2 -
Why does node-sass have such garbage documentation?!
I've now spent over an hour trying to get a clear and concise answer to how that shit works, and what do I get? This: (see picture)
I don't know what any of that means, nor do they care to tell me.
I don't want to render this shit at runtime, I want it to compile the sass code when I make changes to it so my app doesn't get boggled down by unnecessary background processes.
But nooo of course not.
To top it off, the "easy" electron-compile solution doesn't even fucking compile because all its dependencies are either outdated or 404 on me. 😡
It's shit like this that makes me hate web-style development. Lacking documentation and people who just assume everything is logical and clear from the start. It's fucking not.
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#ad
If you like to hear music on YouTube, I can recommend you Headset (https://headsetapp.co), a nice little music player for the desktop, that streams directly off YouTube!
I've been using it for a year and it's really useful for while coding. Especially the ability to use the keyboard media keys!
Also there's a German translation since yesterday! (Done by me :D)11 -
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/...
So apparently you can now run Windows 95 from an app made in electron.
This was my first operating system. I can remember playing Pajama Sam in '96 at the tender age of 6 and teaching my parents how to use a computer. And now it's a freaking electron app that uses 200MB!! of ram. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.
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you motherfucking cocksucking ass wipes.
How fucking hard is it for you JS cockheads to have STABLE fucking code?
So hear I am, thinking through a side project for data extraction and loading to automate some shitty part of my job, that could be used by the broader team... and decide to use electron.... I know it's a clusterfuck, but this wouldn't be a big application, so against my better judgement I run:
npm install electron
npm start
...
Error: unknown spawn
🤷♂️ you had 1 fucking job... 1 fucking lousy shit stain of a job, and you can't even have something run out of the god foresaken box without someone debugging your shit.
Now who has a WORKING alternative to electron?10 -
Microsoft has the audacity to put "Get the new Outlook (It's free for Windows Users!)" on my lock screen. Extraordinarily annoying because:
- It's just the web app packaged in the SHITTIEST electron wrapper you ever did see.
- IT FUCKING HAS ADS8 -
Just like GMO foods have to be labelled as such in some regions, electron apps should be labelled too so I don't accidentally contract RAM-herpes9
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Can we just.... Adapt css to every visual language ever? Like id gladly use c# or jfx, but the main requirement is to make the app look good so im stuck with electron.4
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I know its supposed to be the same since it is built on Electron. But vs code looks waaay better on a Mac than it does on windows. I think its funny.7
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I wish people would stop using Electron for everything. It's like running an instance of a bloated web browser every time I open an app. Running Slack and Spotify eats a ton of ram, a chat client and a music player. I'm resorting to just running these apps as pinned browser tabs.18
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Why even is Microsoft Teams?
Why does it suck so bad? Why is it a memory hog? Why does the ELECTRON desktop app not have native ARM64 support neither on Windows nor macOS? Why is it even an Electron app? Why the web version does not work with Safari (then again, barely anything more complex than my portfolio site works on Safari)? Why is the UI from 2016? Why is it preinstalled with Windows 11? Why the pre-installed Windows 11 version is a completely different entity? Why the preinstalled Windows 11 version does not work with school/work version of Teams calls?10 -
Really excited to learn Electron.js! I'm even opening devRant using devRantron on my computer right now, such a cool project!21
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Can someone explain to me why most design like apps are build in fucking electron. This is like the second time this week.
Me: *sees a super designy looking app*
Me: *Downloads and install*
Me: *Starts* * Slow startup*
Me: This has to be fucking electron again.
Me: *looks in resources folder* YES it is.
I'm not hating on electron. Its just that native apps are so much faster but way more ugly :P
BTW, apps were laverna and hyper5 -
Latest Atom with Electron 1.6 seems to be pegging multiple CPUs and maxing out ram and swap. Looks like I should start trying different editors again. :(
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Lately I've noticed a lot of people complaining about webview apps (electron and so on)... While I see their arguments for resource hungry apps, slow and unreliable - I strongly think that it's just complaining for no reason....
It's slow - yes
It's stupid to make web work in native - yes
But guys, isn't it awesome that technologies allows us to do such things? Even a simple web developer can quickly prototype an application on mac/windows/linux/android/iphones - even if it's not a great one, you still don't need to learn all the corks and quacks of the languages... You just need to get it out there!
So, I'd like to say that we should actually appreciate things we have more, even if it's as stupid as emoji coding language :)
ps. I really admire the emoji language as it's amazing on the spectre of what is possible.... :D12 -
How can you fuck up your code so badly that what should be a reasonably simple desktop app is lagging on any system, no matter how fast?8
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Boss says electron-app needs to run on win/mac/linux, but we cannot compile for mac, because we have none. And we cannot use TravisCI for reasons. Welp.7
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Does anyone or has anyone worked with Electron? I'm kinda new to it, i've gotten down a bit of JavaScript but Electron is fiarly confusing. I have ideas for apps but im just stuck where or how to start.15
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Electron devs: You know that this is the difference between a good looking and bad looking MacOS Electron app.
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Hello guys. Today I bring you my list of top 3 programs that use too much memory
🪟 Windows 10+
⚛️ Web browsers, Electron
🐋 Docker containers
Honorable mention: ☕Java
The developers of those programs should put more effort into optimizing memory usage14 -
Currently working with @Kreischo and another good friend to create a secured, encoded container to store files in it.
I am currently working on the frontend of things, thinking it's quite beautiful.. (Done with Electron)
Your opinion?
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Working in an open source Electron program that decided to just use as many different JavaScript modules as possible.
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My most successful project is unsurprisingly the first and only project I ever made public. It's a very simple TweetDeck wrapper based on Electron. It was featured on some tech site and as far as I can tell quite some people actually use it. Feels kind of nice even though I'm anxious about people hating it.1
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If anyone is using the fall creators update of Windows 10 and wondering why they are not receiving notifications from devRantron, it's a known problem with Electron and Windows 10 FCU.
I will update the app again once the issue in Electron has been fixed.
I also recently released an update which fixes the "Post Comment" textarea becoming out of focus when you receive a new notifications. And some other bugfixes as well.3 -
am i loosing too much sleep over the idea that JavaScripters with their fat atom/electron are going to dominate the app stores of app/windows in the next few years ?3
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Found "hyper" in the "built with" section of electron.
me: hey, that looks cool
*downloads hyper*
*opens hyper.app*
me: well... fuck this then
hyper:
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I'm trying out blazor at the moment, building a couple of prototypes. I really need to brush up on my html/css for the view stuff, and of course there are a few gotchas. But other than that, I really think Microsoft has nailed browser apps with this!
Client side, server side, a mix of both, runs in all major browsers + as PWA or Electron.
Wow.
All logic and view manipulation in C#, no JS. And the performance is great.
Just.
Wow.1 -
I would like to stop and genuinely thank the devs and anyone that contributed to NW.js for allowing users to work outside the sandbox. Fucking sandboxes these days make developing editors and tooling a bunch of bullshit hassle. I understand why, but it makes an entire class of software that much more difficult to develop.
And on a semirelated note, I decided to go with nw.js because unlike electron, I don't have to tell users "just install these two gigabytes of npm dependencies *from off the net after already downloading the main application*, dependencies that could break at any time at all for any reason."
Does anyone even bundle their dependencies any more or is this something only clinically insane people like myself do?
Because last I checked most users still don't know how to debug console autobarf when a single command goes awry due to something obscure like a version conflict between two brittle cogs in the organ grinder known as package management.
Edit: also, nw.js startup times and memory requirements are relatively sane compared to electron.3 -
Lets discuss Git Clients. Now I love electron, in concept. And I love what you can do with it, on paper. And I understand Github's need to jack itself off by developing its own framework just to make its own software in being what Github is, and then everyone else following suite because Github must know best. And that's my rant, I don't think it had a point. So, favorite git client and why?21
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Heard of Electron? There is also Electrino, Electron-like stuff that uses your system's browser instead of embedding full Chrome. A “Hello World” app takes 115 MB using Electron, but only 167 kB using Electrino.
Too bad it's still a proof of concept with almost no features.
https://github.com/pojala/electrino
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For all my ranting about Electron, does anyone have any experience with NeutralinoJs, an ultralight equivalent to Electron, weighting in at 5mb?
I'm surprised the last commit was in November and theres no people supporting it on patreon (yet)
It's either really good and practically unknown or somehow terrible in a way thats not already obvious.3 -
https://sciter.com/
Little known, *highly* underrated.
It's like electron, except stripped of the retardation and bloatware dependencies.
Like if the people who made Go decided to make a better, *lighter*, *more portable* electron.8 -
To whoever builds electron boilerplates.
STOP ADDING FUCKING JQUERRY AND WEBPACK TO THIS SHIT, I DONT EVEN USE YOUR BULLSHIT BUT OTHERS DO AND THATS WHY SO MANY ELECTRON APPS SUCK. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND THINKS THAT THIS MADE SENSE PUT YOUR CSS LOADER ANAL PLUG IN TO YOUR ANUS AND BUNDLE THEM TO YOUR SINGLUAR BDSM.JS WITH BROWSER BACKFALLS AND BETTER MAKE SURE TO WHIPE YOUR DIRTY SHITFACE WITH A FULL BLOW CSS RESET BETTER MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ACCIDENTAL MOZILLA STYLE IN YOUR CHROME.3 -
I LOVE NODEJS
I LOVE ANGULAR
I LOVE WRITING MY OWN FRAMEWORKS
I LOVE ELECTRON
I LOVE IONIC
I DONT CARE OF APPS SCALABILITY
I HATE HYPSTERS !!!7 -
The cordova-windows platform setup is such a fucking shitfest. Even after installing everything, setting all sorts of env variables it still failed to properly run.
Thank fuck there's cordova-electron, so I don't have to fuck around with that anymore and can also just have the desktop be done, without having to seperate across different desktop platforms either.
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Developer vs non developer interview:
Non developer:
How well do you know excel ?
Developer:
How would you write spreadsheet app, what if it was cross platforms mobile application but also desktop app ?
Non developer:
Do you know how to use windows?
Developer:
Do you know kubernetes, distributed systems, lambdas, cloud services and how to deploy to server farm ?
Non developer:
You know how to use printer / fax and coffee machine ?
Developer:
Do you have experience in writing code for embedded devices ?
Non developer:
Do you know powerpoint ?
Developer:
How well do you know javascript / html / css, are you comfortable with writing backend node.js code or electron applications ?
React native and native apps maybe ?5 -
some shitty scam site is "giving away free gams" like Hello Neighbor, FNAF, etc.
Someone asked me to look at one of their EXEs.
Electron app with nothing really going on and a hardcoded key.
Turns out all this shit is systematic. A couple splash screens and a config file for "download" size, name, key, download page, etc. and they're immediately ready to ship the cookie-cutter scam program meant for "free license key BUT SURVEY FOR OUR PROTECTION" ad revenue.
Have source of the Hello Neighbor one i guess?
(jesus, 204MB of source for an 8MB dropper app???)
https://drive.google.com/open/...1 -
I can't believe fucking Google, aka me cha for SWEs decided that the best they can do is shove all that ram into our computers for Chromium. All of the major apps decided Electron was a good idea and now all of our computers are bloated with fatass memory hogs taking 600MB RAM.
Fuck you Goog.25 -
How is it a thing that developing a desktop app nowadays requires an enormous amount of RAM? I stared working on an electron project and the whole thing takes up 3-4 GB of RAM when running, and that does not factor in my IDE or anything else.
But the packaged app does not go over 400mb, although we have had memory leaks in the past10 -
VSCode
Its:
- Sublime but without the pricetag
- Atom but without the crashing
- netbeans but without the Java
- ideaj but without the load times
- vim without the elitism / esoteric design
- cross platform
The only downside to me is that its electron.9 -
God i fucking hate electron.js, why would you bundle an entire google chrome into your desktop app? WHY WOULD ANYONE BUILD ANYTHING ON THAT FRAMEWORK?11
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Dammit I wish vscode weren't made in electron. Why can't they just make a native version or something, they own the bloody os anyway6
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When you realize that the non-native web-based Spotify App for macOS is faster, prettier, more responsive, more robust and more useful than the native Apple Music app... Good job, Apple.3
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How come something works absolutely perfectly in dev but not in prod?
I was making a desktop app in election js and everything is working perfectly. No problem at all. But then I create the installer/distributable and nothing shows on the screen. And out of curiosity, I wanted to see the error log and it shows an unknown error, I didn't even know from what thing the error is being generated. And after I fixed that, another problem came with Asana Api. I mean, if it's a public API, why do you have to block it with cors? I hate cors!
And after all of it, there's more to it. I mean, why can't you just show the errors in dev?4 -
Why does your BS app (that is obviously made with electron because of course it is) feels entitled to put its garbage into my Documents folder?11
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Seriously I think the Slack apps are really among the worst I have ever had to use. That is both on mobile (iOS) and desktop (Mac). It’s super slow thanks to Electron Desktop and super buggy on mobile. Connection Speed is really slow as well.
I just hate it.8 -
!Rant
For a school project i had to develop a copy of Skype, This had to be able to run in Linux OSx and Windows, Any suggestions about what to use ?
I thought to node js electron for the app and node + mongodb or rethinkdb as a back end7 -
I swear to fucking god the itch.io desktop app is one of the worst design and programming piles of shit out there...
Deisgn is inconsistent and ugly, stability is up shit creek and simple performance is just shit even for an electron app.
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Weird thought.
Everyone seems to hate electron. It's one of the strongest cross platform developing environments though, so everyone uses it.
Google recently made 2 new platforms, flutter and dart, designed for cross platform applications... but then why is project fuschia's entire UI built in, you guessed it, dart and flutter?
I think Google is trying to make an electron replacement, endorse and grow it in fuschia, and have it grow as the new (resource friendlier) electron.
Of course, only my ramblings. Take with a grain of salt.5 -
If I had a penny for each time I've seen someone hating on Electron without considering why it's popular, I'd be a billionaire.15
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Just started using Electron. Seems alright. But
coming from Java, I have no fucking idea how that shit works. Started with something simple, so I wanted to show currrent date and time in a <h1>.
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I think Chromium is definitely one of the best and most useful Open Source Projects, because so many modern technologies are based on it:
- Chrome + Chromium Browser
- Electron (Which is in my opinion the future of software development, as long as Web Apps don't have that many possibilities)
- Android WebViews
- Chrome OS (and Chromium OS)
- Many other Browsers like Opera, Samsung Mobile Browser, Vivaldi…
I think without Chromium the Internet wouldn't be the same today. It helped to popularize WebApps and helped to set many modern web Standards. Also, in addition with V8 it paved the way for modern JavaScript, as it provided (and still provides) developers and so also users with massive performance boosts.3 -
Github rewrites its Desktop Client using Electron!!!
Along with this, GitHub has also introduced a new beta of atom sporting out-of-the-box Git and Github integration.
Nice move 👏
https://infoq.com/news/2017/...2 -
Slack has to be joking. I just wanted to use it in my browser, because their beautiful and definitely not electron based app takes 600MB RAM. Fuck you Slack!
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Programming deeply inspired me before it became my day job. Before Facebook conquered the front-end and API code space. Before Electron apps. Before D. Trump became president. Each of those dealt a hit to either my passion for dev or motivation to create software for others10
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Can somebody explain to me why the fuck creating apps on windows sucks so much ASS!!!! Not only the Electron app that I'm creating is a complete MESS, but on top of that, you need it EV signed, or it will be detected as malware. The fucking Digicert people charge $664/year for it!!!! I only wanted to do a stupid productivity app, and It was going to be free, now I don’t know what to do with it. FUCK12
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What! Now we have a terminal made with electron! https://hyper.is/ electron? Seriously a tool which is supposed to be the fastest and lightest thing on your system built with the most bloated framework. Damn..
And here is the most useless plugin. https://hyper.is/#hyperpower8 -
Working with Electron is a nightmare...
"Hey you have a working app? Nice, here is the new Electron version which breaks everything! Now find out how stuff works now, because we won't tell you! Good luck"8 -
Everytime I see something based on Electron it reminds me about things based on Eclipse. And neither one of thoose two should see it as a compliment to be compared to the other.3
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What's a good hobby project for learning React Native? I come from MEAN and C#/Java.
Just realized I haven't done much coding outside of work recently.... need to get more up to date.
Also correct me if I'm rwrong but it's like Cordova and Electron right? Code is JS and CSS, run everywhere as a native app?2 -
Fucking fuck... My exams are over, today was the last paper(IoT) and it was quite good and I wrote enough to get pass the examination.
While coming home my flip flop got fucked, had fight with gf after 2hours, decided to go and work on my Electron project but MY FUCKING LIFE IS PLAYING WITH ME, MY FUCKING MONITOR IS NOW DEAD.... FUCK MY FUCKING LIFE.
😢😢 I'm so fucking sad that I'm feeling fucking numb, emotion less. My fucking mind is blank and now I'm having headaches.... Fml2 -
Is there a way to sign code for free (or atleast not need to pay over £200 for it)? Im a student and cant really afford much but I have been working on a website and made an electron build for it, however downloading the installer prompts the user to discard it in chrome, then running the installer prompts the user to select do not run in the windows security thingy as its from another computer.
What would be the best way around this if I cant get a certificate for it?2 -
Hey guys :)
I'm here today to share what I've been doing for the best part of the last year.
I was confronted with a problem, I wanted to write my notes in markdown, and wanted something that I could use cross-device without having to enrol on a premium subscription. I also wanted dark theme and a different interface than most options out there. Another requirement I had at the time was that I didn't want simply to go to a website, I wanted a 'native' look and feel, and I didn't want a text editor, I wanted a board of notes.
So I've created Mdyna. I still haven't got the cross-device functionality up and running, but it's one of the next items in my bucket list, along with a PWA that can be used in mobile devices.
You can check it out here: https://mdyna.netlify.com/
Any feedback is welcome =)2 -
Sublime Text could've became the greatest and fastest code editor of all time if it was supported with good extensions. Now we're left with electron based code editors that are slow with big projects.6
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Wow, just have to share a story:
A photographer friend of mine asked me to make a program for him to manage shootings and models etc. and since I'm still a cs student and have the time I agreed. To spice things up I decided to learn something new and voilà I used JavaScript (that I never used before) and HTML (which I only know a liiiitle bit) and some CSS (also little experience) and with Electron.js and the help of YouTube and Udemy I created 40% of the program today!
That's exactly what amazes me about programming... You can learn the basic skills in no time and create working things!
I <3 Programming2 -
Is it just me or has Windows SDK gone down hill horribly in recent times
WPF -> UWP was a giant and good step
then they kinda killed off UWP, focused on XAML Islands
then came Windows 11 which breaks some UWPs built with WinUI2 coz the components are tied to the OS and not self-contained, so some dont exist in Win11 and the apps crash on runtime
Now there's WinUI3 but it assumes that the starting point is Windows 11, I try to build em on Win10 (coz win11 sucks ass), and intellisense it all crazy
These are all issues one can circumvent IF they align their setups the way MSFT desires
But the fact that these issues exist and wont work out of the box, makes me wonder how long before they start recommending Electron or some other "JS/TS-based UI framework" that'll work within ChakraCore or something. Getting back to WPF/Win32 days7 -
My classmate and I stumbled into the idea of third wave programming, like the waves of feminism but coding.
The first is functional programming, the second is object oriented programming, and the third is making everything in electron and bundling an entire chrome in your application. -
My another attempt to write something in rust and I wanted to try tauri as it’s promising competition to electron.
Why use tauri not electron?
Cause in tauri you can write rust plugins that you can interact with directly from javascript without stupid http servers, mangling code and stuff.
From javascript point you only call one method and pass object with arguments into it.
So it took me entire weekend to create draft plugin to interact with sqlite database.
Documentation of tauri is inconsistent. I understand that cause it’s young project and plugins architecture changed frequently.
Moreover my knowledge of rust is near to zero. But overall it was worth it. I like what I achieved.
I can pass sql query and execute it inside mutex guarded singleton. Like I said before I like it cause I can call my plugin directly from javascript.
I know I wasn’t fancy with my implementation. I just created file database connection from json configuration and managed to receive string sql statements. I just print results with rust to console for now.
I will add sending back results later this week.
For me tauri is already better then electron cause code is clear and there is no workaround ( except singleton with connection - cause of limitations of my rust knowledge ).
Live long tauri and fuck you electron.
https://tauri.studio/en/
if you’re interested.2 -
Bored at the office. Company is done for. I'm spending my last days here, doing nothing, waiting for my new position to start. There's only that much you can read on devRant, and SO MUCH MORE you could do writing code. But I just can't decide what to do and as a result sit here doing nothing. Help me out please! Answer with the most points will be the thing I'll start with on Monday, while today I think I'll just crack open a cold one.
My initial variants:
1. Learn Electron by playing with Electron React+Redux basic boilerplate, in order to make a simple personal blogging app.
2. Complete some of the 20 courses that I bought on Udemy 6 months ago.
3. Write the back-end logic for my Raspberry PI controlled systems at home (to control it remotely I'll make a hosted API that RPI will access to get input for it to decide what to do).
4. Solve problem 51 on projecteuler.net with an algorithm that runs less than 20 seconds.
Other suggestions are welcome.1 -
I just noticed that you can customize Firefox's UI with both drag&drop and CSS. My browser UI now takes up about half the space it did and I even increased the font size a bit. This is the level of UI customization I expect from all Electron apps and such. If you think it's too much effort leave the drag&drop and use a more basic config table, but if you're gonna spend MY CPU cycles rendering HTML and CSS you better let me change whatever I want about them.5
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Hello everyone, I would like to create a native desktop application on Linux, which language/gui framework would you suggest to me, knowing that I have been working as a Web developer all my life?
I tried Javafx, but I don't like that very much, is really confusing and requires a lot of boilerplate, I use to work with visual studio, so a drag and drop visual editor to create a gui, that was easy.
I tried electron, but I don't really like it.
The main problem I am facing is adapt a pattern like mvc to desktop app, and share data between scene.
I would love to use flux pattern.
Any tutorial suggestions?8 -
Who already used Electron to create desktop apps ?
Is it simple ? Some people tell me it's similar to react-native is it true ?7 -
Building a Project Manager with Electron.
Does anyone of you has experience with lowbd? If yes, feel free to share!
Image is my messed up first try :P
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Question for you desktop guys. I was thinking of making a desktop app with a GUI as a side project. It's mostly going to be business-like CRUD, no fancy stuff. I was thinking of using electron (since I'm a web developer) but I read that it's slow and bloated. On the other hand I would like learning something new. I don't want to spend too much time on the GUI so I would prefer a framework/language that already has some nice open source gui packs available. I have only ever used JavaFX before for a tutorial, is that a good choice? Also, I would like it to work on both linux and windows.10
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/rant on
React Native is BS for Android. Outdated as hell Gradle builds (1.x for certain plugins I mean wtf) and it targets outdated SDK and build tools... Why no simply code for system your software is meant to work :P
/rant over
In seriousness, I get the concept of build once deploy on all platforms ala Electron but better but hell why is the tooling so outdated?1 -
Never doubt myself.
Never questioned my skills...
Because I have few skills.
I'm no dev, an amateur programmer who learned in school (best part, learned logic programming) and stopped programming for years because I had no future without an engineer University course... How mistaked I was.
So I know that I'll spend more time on google on every project I start.
Still doesn't stop me... Until I find out that I can't do what I want (like the time I made all the UI of a web app in JavaScript to use in electron and then found out that I couldn't use a file database, sq lite on that case... one month almost wasted... Almost, kept the UI as a mock up. Did the same mistake two years latter, only to remember like one week latter why I didn't use JS the last time. Doing it in python+Kivy now) I'll just keep pushing, and trying, and learning.
Never stop, never quit, only death is impossible (for now). -
!not a rant
Peeps using Postman - Check out Insomnia.rest it looks awesome
https://insomnia.rest/
PS: Think it's built with Electron.10 -
!Rant
Tldr: great spike to solve deployment problem may be a wasted effort.
Deployments of an ancient electron application need to be done in CodeDeploy to deploy the latest build. Customer hour restrictions cause this to be done only after midnight, and manually checked.
The whole team knows this is the wrong method of deployment and that there are many other operational problems with the project.
A few other senior team members get together and decide to spike out a way to use electron auto-deployment to accomplish this without using code-deploy at all.
After a shallow dive into this subject, we all get pulled aside to handle a change in another part of the software ecosystem. It happens. We leave the spike behind.
A junior-intermediate developer on the team pics the project up and gets a good spike going in a day and a half! We are all high fives and beers. This is Friday.
By Monday there is a pull request in for code review and it looks solid. Seems like it will make deployments a lot better.
Preparing the last deployment (hopefully) with CodeDeploy ever...
Marketing team members inform us that they are running an add system on the customer devices and to do it they are using Linux.
The current application being deployed is using Windows 10 (yeah, another problem).
They say they have made plans to move our application over to Linux. This means we may not be able to launch the junior devs great spike and the old deployment method may stay for the time being.
Meetings soon to find out how all of this will hash out.
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Going to develop a electron desktop..
saddest part: doesn't even install on my machine.. don't know why... errors errors everywhere 😢😢
npm install -g electron8 -
I just discovered electronjs and absolutely love it, even found that my fav ide vscode is build using electron on nodejs.12
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Currently there is a lot of work done in native application development, like android/iOS apps, desktop applications and such.
I feel like those will be replaced over time by websites and electron based apps.
I just don‘t see native apps in ten or twenty years from now1 -
Why would Apple ever limit iOS developers to the Safari WebKit? They're basically saying no to wonderful things like Electron - and proper surfing, when you think about it...4
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Last day at this job. Fixing a printer and then exploring electron apps until 5 because no one's giving me anything to do1
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!rant
I created a desktop player based on youtube, here we don't have available spotify yet so I decided to create my own thing made with electron-vue, what do you think?
https://github.com/AndreiKnight/...6 -
I came across them on product hunt. All are web wrappers created in electron. Fast, Smooth, Dark Mode
Unofficial Instagram - https://github.com/terkelg/ramme/
Unofficial twitter - https://github.com/sindresorhus/...
Unofficial messenger -https://github.com/sindresorhus/...
What you all think? -
Having a look at electron again after giving up on it months ago.
I must say, the documentation has improved a lot since then, and it looks---dare I say---intuitive to use?
The electron api demos app is surely some help, but I'm not really all that sure how much it lives up to its name. It doesn't really demonstrate anything, and it doesn't cover the whole api, just small chunks of it.
Loving the event system though!12 -
client has no clue what he wants and keeps changing the requirements of the projects; wants to deploy "to a desktop app like electron but faster, but also as a lib for developer to use on a server like a CMS" 🤦🏻♂️; takes two hours in a call and literally tells me that he want to "hear himself speak" so he can clarify what he needs...
me: NOP2 -
And also this year UWP Community Launch is arrived, thanks for your effort, and good luck to everyone involved, keep up the good work, say no to electron.
https://medium.com/@Arlodottxt/...4 -
What are your favorite gui editor (not just vim/emacs in console) for Linux that are not based on Electron and that are doing well with several langs?11
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I'm following this electron tutorial. I tried esporta and npm installa, but they are not working. Someone knows why?
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Electron is so heavy on ram usage that they should just rename it to tau. Electron apps are also unstable so that would work too.4
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I'm so tired of all these new support channels. Why the fuck would I want 7 electron based apps/accounts just to ask questions or provide support? I don't want slack, gitter, discord, zulip and what not. Can't keep up with this bullshit.
Can we please get back to supporting open source on IRC? And fuck my life even that got split up due to shit happening in freenode (the company). FML distributed good, fragmented bad.3 -
Mate asked me if Electron.js la good to build a desktop app. I suggested to write backend Api and so on in java and front-end in js using Angular or React.
What are your opinion about electron.js?9 -
So first reflex in looking what Electron development looks like was making a Hello world app. So it just makes a window saying "Hello world".
Then I proceed to editing the menu, and the quit option is "Goodbye world"... and I realized, or at least I thought... this is a bit... grim?1 -
Two hydrogen atoms walk into a bar.
One says, "I've lost my electron."
The other says, "Are you sure?"
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Try googling "electron", is your top hit the framework electron or the elementary particle electron?12
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Anyone know how to go about unit testing an application that is made up of:
- Electron
- Node
- React
- Typescript
(React using Typescript of course).
Electron has its own framework (Spectron), people seem to use Mocha with Node, React has its own tools like React testing library (and testing UI components will probably end me) and Typescript seems to play best with Jest - but a special Typescript flavour of Jest called ts-jest is preferable because the only other option is having Babel and its Typescript support that doesn't type check.
I want to beg for the sweet release of death.4 -
I Have 2 Questions.
A. does anyone here look down on webdevs?
B. Any Good project Ideas (For Electron.js)12 -
Can anybody explain my why the fuck EVERYTHING has to be made into an computer-app, even tho it already has a perfectly capable web-interface? Looking at you WhatsApp, Telegram, Slack etc...
Especially when it's basically just the webinterface with a (more or less) fancy electron wrapper slapped on it.4 -
Hey guys, I'm planning to rewrite multiple asp.net applications in my company using Angular 4 & WebAPI/Node APIs. Do you have any suggestions?
We have around 20+ small to medium size applications which I'm planning to rewrite. Since these applications can be run in different machines I'm thinking of integrating them in a electron app and sharing the desktop app to the users.
What do you guys think?
Do you think it's a good idea? How do I proceed with this ? Any inputs are welcome.4 -
That moment when you finally think your freshly made Project looks like something and the more Time you spend looking at it it looks worse and worse 😂🙈
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hey android developers
I want to develop dynamic apps.
Which one is good?
Ionic, Flutter, electron,....or any other?4 -
Just built a solid desktop app for MacOS with Flutter that's worthy of shipping. I gotta say I'm pretty stoked about it, even if it isn't nearly as dope as LOIC. Haha chargin muh lazers!
I'll get some screenshots up soon!!
I also wrote a comple CLI interface for Firebase management using Python. Advanced auth abilities, CRUD capability, full json import/export, verification/password resets, you name it. Well, except full Firestore/mobile OTP features but it's still a win. Actually dicked around and made a cool little Firebase chat program in the terminal with the Python interpreter.
Finished up my first apps in React, React-Native and Ember, my 2nd with Electron, and also got my first Firebase hosted site up and running. Solid day!!! Cheers to that. And cheers to all of you amazing bastards!3 -
I actually don't understand why most people like saying bad things about electron-js been a memory hog. I am not denying the fact that it sucks up system resources. Placing all the blame on electron-js is irrational because most apps built untop of electron-js does not hug memory (vscode is a living testimony to that). When you use bloated frameworks and/or libraries you are bound to have memory issues. When you don't understand how to manage memory effectively (in higher level language - you still have to do something for your value to be garbage collected) you are bound to be held captive in the chains of memory consumption.
Don't hate electron8 -
Productivity Hack: I'm a java developer who decided to write a productivity app that integrates to-do, pomodoro and eisenhower matrix altogether with reports generation. this will also help me logging at work. I'm also using electron + angular2 + typescript, just because, well, I'm trying to learn new stuff.
Long story short, many many many many days later, i'm still waiting for that productivity boost. What is dis webpack? Wat u mean loaders? Wat promises? electron-prebuilt is now electron? Wat u mean npm and node should be updated? .....
Please send help1 -
I need advice!
I have a project idea that involves creating a cross platform gui but I cannot decide on a framework.
I have been toying with the idea of electron(ugh please no), c++ with either gtk+ or qt, Java with JavaFx.
I really want to be be able to create binaries for Mac windows and Linux while keeping bundlesize low and efficiency high. With this in mind I am leaning towards a c++ implementation but qt (which seems to be the best option for this route) has an insane learning curve. Is there something I am not thinking of that would satisfy these requirements?10 -
Seriously, what is up with all these new BLOATED webapps? Almost 250MB eaten up before I write a single note -- really?? Compare that with KeyNote (written in Delphi) loaded with thousands of notes.
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Can anyone suggest a good TS based stack to use with electron? I'm (hopefully) looking to make an open source app3
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Diving balls deep into Reactive Native + Electron after close to a year hammering away like clockwork with Python(everything), Flutter/Dart, EJS/JS/jQuery/Node makes me feel like my manhood has left hahahaha
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I wanted to build a custom notetaking app, because all the alternatives are shit
I have a decent bit of experience with web development, but I've never tried electron before
Anyway, I decide to go with electron, because it seems like the easiest choice for my skill set
I build most of the app, and it's all working pretty well, and so I go to bed for the night
I come back the next day, and now the motherfucker won't load and display HTML pages aside from the main one.
So I start debugging. I go through each line of code, each external link, all my dependencies, everything. There's no JS debug output, nothing
I leave for a few minutes to get a glass of water, and now all of the sudden it works again
And I don't even know what happened, how it got fixed, or what even caused it
Electron is weird10 -
Time for a new laptop, bored with current. Taking community suggestions. May donate current laptop to some poor dev soul in need; has been a trustworthy machine.
I do some of a lot on any given day: c#, PHP, node and typically run vs 2017, phpstorm, datagrip, sql management, webstorm, plus slack, office, etc.
I have terrible browser tab management skills and prefer electron apps over web apps. Am a vm junkie, constantly spinning up linux distros to see something.
Do light gaming when the mood strikes, Spotify or Netflix always on.
Suggest away.8 -
Since Electron is getting some well deserved flak, I think I'll add my two cents.
Why in the actual fuck can it not proceed any way to allow us to USE OUR SELF FUCKING SIGNED CERTIFICATES.
Yes, security hole, but for messing about with new software, I'm not going to pay a CA for a certificate so I can put it on a server that only I and a few select individuals use!
At least give us a usable frontend for allowing our self-signed certificates so I can use my fucking server!1 -
Can someone tell me why the fuck is it so hard to choose where to install electron apps? Selecting installation directory is a default feature in pretty much anything installable. Is electron somehow above that? Is clicking the two a extra buttons to choose a second drive too mainstream nowdays? What? Why? I use Atom, VS code, postman, cycligent, boostnote among others . The idea is good, the apps look beautiful and responsive. But bloated as fuck. Atom alone takes 1.4Gb! And I am ok with it! Really I am! But why the fuck not let me install it in a drive where I have 70% of space free and instead make me use my crammed SSD? Why? WHY?1
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I maintain and develop a FOSS repository on GitHub and I intend to migrate from Electron to Flutter.
What is the proper procedure for this?
I want to keep the name and community but it also feels a bit messy.
Do I just wipe everything old on the main branch and keep a branch that reflects the newest Electron version or do I move to a new repository and start over?
Tips and feedback is appreciated!4 -
So I've made the code public for a tool that I've made using React and Electron. This tool does periodic calls to CircleCI to get the builds that are running. I made this tool because at my job I have two circleci accounts, one via Bitbukkit and the other on GitHub. By running this tool I can get the previous build numbers in a pinch without needing to open up another tab or logging out and then back into another account to get the builds. None the less, Enjoy.
https://github.com/nhalstead/...
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Hearing a lot about Microsoft trying to acquire Github here on devRant.
Made me think, if this happens what will happen to atom?
Development will likely continue but then you would have two electron based, open source code editors both by Microsoft and Github. Probably not that much different from now, but still feels awkward...
Any thoughts? I love both editors and use them near daily. I just hope Atom was more performant and as actively developed as vscode.10 -
i just want my get my shit done and develop quite simple apps like a customer satisfaction poll that should run on android or any other os. should i go for python with kivy (which would be challeging) or for electron as i am somewhat experienced with webdev? i am so undecided...3
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Fucking fuck,..!! was trying Angular2 in Electron... cloned 1repo tried to integrate Chart.js got fucked up because of old version of angular2 then cloned another repo and tried got fucked up again because they have changed little bit in newer version. FML.....
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Any thoughts on Flutter for desktop applications?
I haven't explored much of Electron but comparison before release of newFlutter sdk is just hype.1 -
I want to create something using Electron, just because I thought it would be fun(web-development background). Anyone else using it? Any tips? I thought it would be a great exercise to dig through the Atom IDE code, as what I want to make needs some similar features, what do you think?5
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I am in love with Electron JS.
Started Programming with Desktop development(Visual Basic),in my high school.
After a detour of trying Gamedev,Webdev,several frameworks, feels good to comeback and try Desktop dev.
Gonna dive deep...........5 -
On top of being ignoring the Linux community and the audio problem caused by their sheer incompetence to use WebRTC and Electron in order to support screen sharing, they now just sent me the whole damn thing again over the span of 2 hours.
This is why I won't pay for discord until they get their shit together.
Not to mention the disastrous android app update recently that still has unaddressed that make daily usage a pain...
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!rant && advise
I have some expirience working as full stack developer, but focussed latly mainly on backend (php/java). However for one project, I need a desktop application and I was wondering, if you would recommend electron for it.
Pros:
- I could reuse some of the webapp stuff and cache it offline using web workers
- Styling done via HTML/CSS
- Portable between Linux/Windows/Mac
Cons:
- I haven't worked (much) with node js so far, but that shouldn't be a too big problem
What are the pros and cons from your point of view? Would you recommend electron? Why yes, why no? If no, what would you reccomend as alternative?
My knowledge so far:
Good: PHP/Java (without GUI)/CSS
Quite good: Javascript
Meh: Python (I can hack things together but wouldn't say I'm good with it...), C++8 -
One language to rule them all...
React Native for mobile
Electron for desktop
Normal for the web
I only wish for it to be memory efficient.
Only this and every dev would be happy i guess.2 -
Could someone advice me to pursue a programming language? I'm currently working with PHP using laravel Framework. And I 'm thinking about javascript like node js, electron and etc since it enable developers to create cross flatform app from web , to mobile and also to desktop. I'm just a little bit dizzy about these things right now.10
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Webpack, requirejs, AMD, browserify all are wonderful tools but they don't play nice with node(client side) .
I LITERALLY switched between all, because the hacks worked but not quite. (Using node and electron, go figure!)
You know what they say fifth times the charm.
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Hi
any of you guys had problems with electron/puppeteer, especially trying to load pages using proxies
I'm using arch linux3 -
Why every single modern-looking code editor built with electron? I just want a code editor that has a good UI and doesn't run as a web page.2
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Why in the world there is no reasonable electron based desktop app for Twitter?
Nocturn - no tray icon
Chirp - doesn't work, don't know why
My last hope: https://github.com/dogancelik/...9 -
So if universal apps are coming to macOS, does that mean we'll be able to use React Native and friends to create native desktop apps and ditch Electron and it's insatiable hunger for memory.
I mean that's cool, but why not just embrace PWA's?2 -
Electron vs Java + a webkit browser for UI?
I'm really intrigued by your opinions.
Btw I'm considering the difference in resulting software quality (perfomance, weight, etc.).
Would the UI defeat the benefits of using Java?2 -
Hm.... it looks like i need to upgrade to the Cloud and maybe UWP/Electron.... as desktop-only apps (WPF) and the desktop itself will soon be no more...
https://stratechery.com/2018/... -
I am going to write my thesis on Electron and plan to create another Postgres client as everything i found does not serve my need.
So my questions are: What features do u like in a Postgres client
Also Ultimate question 🙋 What would it be named 🤣😂7 -
A game. A simple pixel-art, 2D game.
I told myself I'd start it after wrapping up other projects. When I did, I checked the docs for Electron and Phaser and... Well, lemme do some Node projects first... -
so does anyone know about various social media clients that are true bots and not ones that actually register with the service but just emulate a web browser and fill in parts of the rendered dom and press buttons and shit ? i really don't want to have to write one in electron.14
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I gotta say, devRantron is awesome guys, congratulations! One issue though I'm having (it's probably not devRantron's issue) is that notifs from other Electron apps appear under devRantron in the notifications indicator on Elementary OS 😂 but no problem :)
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I hate Java. I was using PyCharm for all my python development. I wanted to extend it, but I hate Java. So I looked into other editors - Atom and VScode. But when I found out I would have to extend them with JavaScript, I realised what I was better off with PyCharm again.
Yes I know I could use sublime, but I hate its licensing.2 -
How fast is vscode in Linux? I'm irritated with time it takes to start my complete dev environment in windows.?
nodejs + mongodb + vscode + chrome + studio3t
So you see I've to start 2 electron based apps and chrome. Node js takes its fare time to start the first script.27 -
After weeks of agonizing and cursing Electron JS and JavaScript......
I finally managed to get all my modules to sync up and play nice with each other!
Love JavaScript again! Although seriously had enough issues with asynchronous tasks and threads.
Heading over to the dark side(functional) now.... 😈😈
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The pain you have to go through while developing. Updated my MAC to macOS Sierra(from El Capitan) just coz of electron-builder required new version.5
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React, redux and electron. Why can't you be simple 😂.
Might consider writing a yeoman generator when I find something that works!1 -
UWP suck, I don't wanna hurt yall feeling but it's time to face the truths:
+ SandBox
+ Less Job Offer
+ Development more Complicated than Web App
+ Microsoft not create perfect hardware to make sure our app get to more consumers (the Pro X is failure)
+ Poor Optimized
Poor Optimized ?
the Windows 10 optimization is joke, all my surface laptop, pro, book I have tested. They claim that consume less Ram, but when using it along side electron and Win32 app. It feel so much choppy and lag. I mean WTF ?
UWP was made for optimize low specs SoC such as ARM base, now my laptop running on a core I5 + GPU still lag ??
I'm sorry but this is just sad. Im moving back to win32. WinRT sooner or later will end supported
And Microsoft will improve the Win32 Api6 -
Whats yours opinion on Ionic2 for mobile development, and Electron for desktop apps. Any good or should we stay away?2
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I want to build a program for my projects and generally to organize my different work/hobby related things.
I want to do this in a language I'd have to learn, so far I only know how to write in Bash, Python and JS(Node).
I do however, have some experience with the fundamentals of programming and are very comfortable with data structures.
So far, I've looked at using C or Rust, does anyone have some suggestions? (I've also looked at Electron but it seems too easy for this project)
The current overview of my thoughts for the application:
- Be secure
- Have a UI for visualizing projects
- Hopefully cross-platform (but I only need linux)
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Hi fellas, I am having problems to play widevine content in electron. I am trying to convert ember-app to electron app. Except widevine content everything works great, Version info are:
Shaka 2.02
Electron 1.4.13(Chromium 53)
Electron Packager 8.4.0
Widevine v1.4.8.903
I used http://electron.atom.io/docs/... docs. In order to check my player i load shaka-demo app.
I included widevine like this
``` app.commandLine.appendSwitch('widevine-cdm-path', path.join(__dirname, ./widevine/1.4.8.903/_platform_specific/linux_x64/libwidevinecdmadapter.so)); app.commandLine.appendSwitch('widevine-cdm-version', '1.4.8.903');
```
Also added plugins: true. When i load mainWindow.loadURL('https://shaka-player-demo.appspot.com/...'); to play widevine content it's disabled. I have tried navigator.plugins still can not play widevine content2 -
I think I may have just had a bit of an epiphany...
Algorithms and Data Structures are sort of like libraries and frameworks.
JS is probably the easiest example since npm has a lot of libraries.
For most cases, underscore.each and lodash.each $.each achieve pretty much the same thing except one maybe better in certain cases.
And data structures are sort of like Angular, React, Electron, ReactNative. Each has its own purpose or style and are good for solving certain types of problems?
So day-to-day you don't really care what Sort() algo you use.. unless you really need to perfoarmance tune it for a specific case.
And data structures, depending on the type of problem you have, one is easier to work/think about the problem in although not examply... Usually have to use a few of them at once.
How is this going to help me in interviews... I'm not sure... other than reconfirming that knowing specific implementations of Sort and Trees is usually BS... most of the time just need to know you should Sort or use a Tree... -
Has anyone experienced being able to run a build of an electron app that runs successfully, then run the same app that was zipped/tar'ed and then extracted and no longer works? Currently facing a "module not found" error after the application was archived and then extracted. The code im working on is open source and has plenty of documentation if you would like to take a peek!
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I can run DSP on 4K raw video, but it’s Slack that’s eating up most of my CPU cores. I understand the practical reasons for Electron desktop apps, but it brings fast workstations to their knees and destroys UX paradigms. Run Slack, Discord and Gitter at the same time if you’re a true glutton for punishment. It’s out of control.1
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Im currently working on a electron project. Is there any best practice for UI design? I want to make a VS Code-like UI with resizable panels. Do I have to do that on my own using jquery-ui for example?4
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I'm trying to make a PC app and I want it to be crass platform.
I'm in .net clan :D.
So which framework you suggest?
Xamarin, Avalonia UI, Electron or what?
(I wrote my library in .net standard)7 -
Which CROSS PLATFORM Desktop App Development tool/framework do you use?
I've been using ElectronJS but I'm tired of it but I can't find any better alternative. If you know any better alternative please let me know. and please, do write why you think its better than ElectronJS
Thanks4 -
When people tells you electron is not that bad, make them download Binance app...
Worst shit ever, freezes my pc every ten minutes, is laggy as hell, it’s a pain in the ass to update. -
After few weeks I got back to an Electron app. Rebuilt the thing, copied fresh binaries to a Win 10 VM, and the app doesn't even start, it instantly crashes. Literally nothing changed - libraries (and their versions) are same, source code is the same, node version is same, it was built on same machine, VM wasn't even started since then.
Tried a fresh Tux binary, and of course it runs fine.
God, I hate Windows. 😩2 -
Lately, I've seen in some article against the Electron framework and read some people thought that "the Web, in general, is a waste/curse/..."
Did I miss something somewhere about that? I know Electron has that Java syndrome where it has to pack so many things in one executable while it could be less heavy than this (here, the Chromium browser for instance), but the Web in general?5 -
Has anyone experience with NativeScript with or without Angular? I‘m currently planning for a new project and I want it to run on multiple devices. Especially I want it to run native on iOS and Android and (maybe with Electron) on desktop.
Currently I have only experience with Angular in the Web and inside Electron. -
We started new project cca 1y ago crm like stuff so we decided go with electron + vue front and lumen for api
Then client wants dos like functionality and visually too fuck them ... -
Hi bros,
Asp mvc developer. Trying to write an electron app. Please suggest any good references/tutorials there apart from original documentation?5 -
Made to write an electron app as a make-shift solution to restart a service running on a raspberry pi that was deployed as a make-shift solution to another problem
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To start:
Another tool for artists.
Want to make it cross platform so going to learn electron... See how it goes10 -
What do you guys recommend to read when starting Electron project with React and Typescript. I'm kinda stuck. :/
I've already make a simple Electron app with Js, but few people recommended me to try React, Redux and Typescript. But idk where to start.
P.S: Tried the boilerplate, reading docs.. I need something that explains what does what and how.4 -
Anyone with any idea why installing electron has become a pain now
I'm on windows 10 and cant get electron installed on it2 -
Why the fuck are native desktop applications so damn slow when it comes to displaying remote/web contents???
Steam, XBOX/Microsoft Store, Apple App Store/Music are just a few examples. Waiting 1-2 seconds to perform a search, list products, start video playback or just loading a few bytes of text.
Even Internet Explorer destroys them when it comes to loading and displaying data! I prefer every overloaded electron based app over these crutches.
But honestly, why is this?!5 -
Hey!
Would you recommend React Native, or Electron for a not really experienced programmer?
I am just starting with JavaScript, and these two tools are the most fascinating to me. :)
I have been learning C# in school, but mostly had to teach myself in the past year.
Anyway, thank you, if you answer, it is really nice on devRant, and it's my first developer community to be part of! :D
Sorry for the broken english - not my primary language.6 -
So I may have a little more free time this weekend, not sure what kind of project to start. I am wanting to use an entire JS stack. Any one have any ideas?2
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Should I write my app as a pwa or in electron. The app needs to be on mobile devices too but I wont mind rewriting the app for another platform since the app is pretty small. It only needs notifications, network access and basic read and write access to write some pretty small configs. Most of the code will be for the ui anyways1
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