How to waste 7 hours of your time:
1.) Install Visual Studio 2017
2.) Install extensions for it
3.) Wait for it to destroy itself with updates
4.) Reinstall everything

Visual Studio 2013 needs 1GB
Visual Studio 2015 needs 1.5GB
Visual Studio 2017 needs....
....
....
14GB!!!!!

Visual Studio 2017rc is so good that I'm beginning to hate 2015.
code preview, installation speed, startup without hiccups.
EVERYTHING IS SO FRIGGIN SMOOTH IMMA CRY.

Microsoft announced Visual Studio 2017. Yeah, Party.

I am so hyped, because with it comes C#7.0. I am speaking of tuples, pattern matching and local functions. This will be great. Soon ☺️🎉

Finally time to download the new Visual Studio 2017, click download, file size 1MB!😐 Fuck you all web installers! Eat shit and DIE!

So simple, but so brilliant!
I love the new code editor in Visual Studio 2017. 😁

(when you hover on a dotted line you see a preview of the part of code where it starts)

*FourWeeks From Deadline*

Two CoWorkers: "Oh cool, Visual Studio 2017 is out, I am gonna switch"

Breaks the build.

They then tried to spend hours trying to get the project to work on both versions, with no success, then let us know.

I am just glad we use Git

Well, some time in the future, i will have to sit a computer science exam with C#. It can't be that bad, right?

Wrong.

To start off, Visual Studio 2013. Why the fuck someone would use this pile of garbage in 2018. I have no fucking clue why any semi-competent IT department would decide to skip TWO fucking releases of the software and decide, that it's okay to just roll with it. It's okay to not have any updates. It's okay to just no care at all.

I literally brought in my laptop with a VM installed since Visual Studio 2017 is really superior to the crap from 5 years ago just to do my coursework most lessons.

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Second issue, you know thoes desks where the monitor is literally under the desk and you get a small little window to see the monitor? Yeah, well I will have to take my proper exam in one of these all over the fucking room. Pic related.

Today we had a mini mock - - it went something like this:
- There was glare from the glsss on the desk because of the lights in the room and literally the monitor itself.
- The glass was beyond fucking pig filthy.
- There was neck pain from my back because i was constantly looking down and bending over the see the screen.
- There was eye strain because the document given to us was a tiny piece of paper with tiny writing and the monitor was far away and the paper was close i couldn't focus my eyes.
- Literally every desk was as bad as the next.
- I did fuck all work because i just couldn't focus because of the things above.
You can tell how great that felt.

If i was in a room with a man (or if it was a woman, let's just pretend she has balls), who was the creator of the room i just described, Hitler, my College's IT staff and other really bad people while having infinite ammo, i would continuously shoot the creator in the balls while not giving a shit about anything else.

Forever.

Until heat death.

Thanks for reading.

I'm trying to Uninstall Visual Studio 2017 and the uninstaller is asking me to update the installer before I can proceed.

What type of fuck is this Microsoft?

!rant

If you haven't checked it out yet, all devs need Devdocs.io + Station

Hands down the most useful resources I've ever come across.

This one site and tool saves me so many chrome tabs it's worth its weight in gold.

Combined with Station (getstation.com) I've cut my RAM usage down by 1/3 overall.

When you have PS CC2018 and Visual Studio 2017 running on a netbook it's helpful to squeeze every little bit.

What!?!

You have to update Microsoft Visual Studio Installer 2017 in order to update Microsoft Visual Studio 2017 Preview?!?! WTF!?! WELL DONE MICROSOFT!

Xamarin is 27GB, whaaaaaat?!?

About to install Visual Studio 2017 using my barely 5 Mbps internet

Install size is ~ 30fuckingg7 GB! 😨

Something gotta be seriously wrong with this world if it gets installed without any troubles.

Pray for me

Every time someone rants about Visual Studio I'm like: WTF are they talking about? it is the best IDE I ever used!!

but now after using VS 2017 I must say:
WHAT THE FUCK MICROSOFT DID TO THIS THING! IT RANDOMLY FREEZE EATS OUT ALL CPU AND NOW USES A GOOD 1.5GB RAM!

my previous experience:
barely 20% of CPU
at max 700MB RAM

Guess those days are over :\

Compiling 2 big projects with two Visual Studio 2017 requires less RAM (combined) than browsing the internet. Seems legit.

Visual studio 2017 with Xamarin:

* writing some sweet code, life is good.. build and run.
*change int age to 2, build, build failed, no single message why.
*clean, clean failed, no single message why.
* build rebuild clean all or by project, nothing works, no single message why.
*change nothing, restart VS, build success !
* writing some code, same problem
*restart VS, "this project is not compatible with Visual Studio"

Good bye guys, I'm gonna kill myself

Took a while but finally !! :D ... Worth the wait !!

I’m waiting visual studio 2015 for 3 hours and another one for this program devexpress because we need to learn it at my bootcamp

2017 doesn’t even took 30 min to finish up

Me: Hey Visual Studio 2017 could you please....
VS: Unknown Error
Me: What about an Update?
VS: Unknown Error

Everyone,

Get Visual Studio 2017 RC right now! It is much faster and uses less space, almost 5x less than 2015.

Visual studio (2017), since I switched to C# and visual studio I'd never go back, my dev life became so much better, enjoyable, faster and easier ❤

! exactly dev

I'd ditched Windows and spent a while exploring the Linux ecosystem for content creation. And I have to say, it was not a nice experience.

As much as I respect the Linux mantra of "free as in freedom" and "you need to roll up your sleeves and figure out stuff on your own", it just isn't good enough for non-dev work. Sorry guys, but I need software that gets out of my way and at least does what it's supposed to do. I can't stand a horrible UI or delays and random crashes, which is exactly what happens with most things under Linux.

To replace my Windows workflow I used the following:
1. Windows -> elementaryOS (because Debian/Ubuntu repositories seem to have the best software support, and elementaryOS is the least horrible looking thing that supports that) and then Arch, because, well, Arch.
2. Blender + Maya -> Blender + Maya on Linux.
3. Reaper + FL Studio -> Ardour + LMMS.
4. Photoshop -> GIMP + Krita + Inkscape.
5. ZBrush -> nothing :(

As you can see, my use cases are pretty much all over the spectrum.

Firstly, installing and configuring stuff. A pleasure on Windows, an absolute pain on Linux. Everything just worked on Windows, I had to wrestle with library versions and patches and unstable audio layers (Linux audio just sucks, except for JACK) on Linux.

Out of these, Blender and Maya were the best experience. But even then, both would suffer from random crashes that just didn't happen on Windows.
Ardour is actually really nice when it works. Its use of JACK for routing makes it really really flexible, but it just isn't stable enough to depend on. LMMS is utter crap. I'm sorry, but I just hate the UI. Can't stand it.
GIMP, Krita, and Inkscape can't beat Photoshop, even when you consider them together. Adobe software workflow is just so much better and more intuitive.
Blender 3D sculpting is not bad, but it's nowhere as good as ZBrush.

Also, if you're a C++ dev like me, nothing beats Visual Studio 2017. Nothing. That IDE just blows everything else out of the water. Even VSCode. And it's not slow at all, it handled a fairly large project (PBRTv3) just fine on my Windows development VM. Yes, a VM.

So...I ditched Linux and went back to Windows, but I keep Linux as a VM for when I actually want to mess with Blender or Ardour. Or some dev stuff which Windows sucks at (which is becoming less frequent because of WSL).

Out of all the above, the only one I'd consider ready for production use would be Blender. Developers of open source software, please learn from Blender. Kickass UI and user friendly operation is extremely important, you can't make a random window with GTK buttons and text boxes and arcane config files and expect people to use it for serious work.

Also, Windows beats Linux hands down as an everyday OS. It's always been rock solid, if you take care of it properly (and that goes for any OS). Updates hardly take any time because I run it on a SSD. As for all the advertising and marketing bullshit, you can block a large amount of stuff. And for what can't be blocked, well, I just have to live with it, because the alternative is compromising on my creative output, which is too much for me.

I still run Linux on my server, though. And on my embedded devices (Pi, BeagleBone, etc.). It absolutely rocks there.

I realize that Linux software is not going to improve unless we do something about it, so I'll be contributing fixes and code (the joys of being a C++ dev, yay). Still, I feel that the platform and software as a whole is just not mature enough.

Visual Studio 2017 15.7.1, smallest update ever… ~8 MB.

Sometimes Xamarin just doesn't want to Xamarin...

Day #128: Visual studio 2015 is still installing... Can't wait for gamemaker to support Visual Studio 2017 for UWP...

Day #129: Just finished the first of 4 windows SDK's to install... things are looking up...

So here I am sitting on my dusty laptop gaming laptop (because supposedly it would offer me better performance in compiling code and working with CUDA according to the people above me) at a research institute where I just started working at. I am told that there are some issues with the code and that it fails to build on Windows with MSVC that ships with Visual Studio 2017 and later.

I poor some hot tea from my insulated bottle I brought from home and start reading.

I look in this header file and what do I see - a custom uint24_t struct. Interesting...

I keep sifting through the code base. I find some functions that check and change Endianess. Ok, but the software is developed, built on and runs only on Win7 and later desktop systems. Never mind...

Further I find a custom "allocator" that is used throughout the whole code base. It has three inline static class member functions: allocate, copy and deallocate plus some private constructors. And these just wrap around the standard new and free calls. Some flavours of this class actually only deallocate (with a comment above them: "This allocator does not allocate. HANDLE WITH CARE!!!", which is btw the only "code documentation" I have managed to find).

But wait! What is this? A custom thread and mutex. Oh, and string, and vector.

Further down the rabbit hole I find a custom math library with a matrix class that does not support multiplication between a matrix and a vector. Perhaps not a use case I guess...

I continue and come across some UI-related calls. Interesting, I wonder what they are using as a framework. Oh, my...We have an extensive GUI custom framework written from scratch (drawing buttons and all).

All of this is to load an OBJ file and render it on the screen on a standard Windows PC in some way.

Very nice... ;_;

Some nostalgia in Visual Studio.

So... visual studio 2017 came out... Well I have 2015 but I decided to update. I am still waiting 1 hour later for visual studio 2015 to uninstall...

Now I know this may cause people to hiss uncontrollably but it's Visual Studio 2017 for me
It's clean, with my low end configuration it's fast enough, maybe my projects aren't large enough tho, Microsoft is making efforts with the git integration, I really enjoy it as an everyday tool

Imagine if Visual Studio 2017 was made with Electron.. Fuck, it would be so slow

Visual Studio 2017 (RTW)....
Hmmm..
You are not there yet, but I trust you.
If anybody can be best (among IDEs), it can only be you.

I know its been quite a while since ive posted last but it is safe to say that i am back! And boy do i have some stuff to bitch about.

This semester, Im taking mobile app development as a class. I chose to take this class over the introductory c# class, so that i wouldn't need to work with Windows or really do anything else to touch Windows. Well the joke is on me. Here i was thinking that we would be using a bit of Java from time to time while only really learning best practices and concepts.
Never did i think that this class's curriculum would be entirely based off of Xamarin.
Seeing as I need either this class or the two c# classes to graduate, I had to bite the bullet and just accept that my semester would be full of irritation during this class.
Its been about seven weeks in, and i have turned in 8 assignments.
All 8 of those assignments have been Windows Form Applications doing simple shit like dividing two numbers.
We have not made anything for multiple devices. We have not made anything for even one mobile device. We have not even discussed how to do this in the class.
This wouldnt bother me so much since these are typically easy programs that take about 30 minutes to make and test and submit for grading. It does insanely bother me, however, that it takes Windows so FUCKING LONG to boot, or when it freezes every 2 minutes because i clicked into another program, or it just HANGS ON THE UPDATING SCREEN AT 36% FOR THREE DAYS, or when it took 4 different reinstallations of Visual Studio 2017 before i could actually open without an error code.

College, Ive learned, tests my patience way more than it has ever tested my knowledge.

New team, same discussions...

* Why should we use cmake? It is way better to add visual studio project files to the repository and allow everyone to mess around in the compiler setting dialogs. Nobody needs cmake if not targeting multiple platforms!
* clang-format? What kind of black magic is this? It is way better to manually try to stick with each source file's existing formatting - regardless of how messed up it is - and manually check that from time to time!
* Why should we use the latest visual studio 2019 compiler, if 2017 and 2015 do just fine? This way we can save license fees!

/irony off

Just to mention a few highlights...

So I finally switched from Visual Studio 2015 to 2017. As you can see it's going great so far :/
Took me an entire day to install it and to get it to compile the most basic program. On top of that it has already crashed/frozen up over 4 times over the past 2 hours.

Visual Studio 2017 is a disaster of epic proportions...

Is it fair to say that my professor is unprepared to teach if he refuses to use visual studio 2017 in favor of 2010, which may be unable to open my 2017 projects? I'm guessing not, since it's his class, but the Syllabus doesn't mention the class using such shitty technology. I honestly refuse to download VS 2010 until my grade depends on it.

Once I tried to install Visual studio 2017 at night time and went to sleep.

Woke up in the morning and it was still installing.

So thought I would install Visual Studio 2017 for Mac and ho boy what a load of shit that is!

They say it's designed to be macOS styled yet it is literally the same visual style and element location to mono-develop for linux and mac, piss poor effort when even creating new project uses the same form layout.

- My C++ only, Visual Studio 2017 needs to update.
-"sure why not"
- The update needs to download 1.84 GB.
- huh, maybe i can take advantage and uninstall the Node.js tools i don't need anymore (VS Code does better job)
- Now the update + uninstall needs 2.05GB to download.
- The update also contains ASP.NET crap, i don't even have installed the web tools or neither the .NET development platform!.
What?.

I decided to install Visual Studio 2017 RC. It looks good and it runs faster than 2015.

Any .net devs want to give me the truth about visual studio 2017? Yes, no, wait are all acceptable answers. Thanks!

Hi guys i need some help my visual studio professional 2017 with xamarin is running slow in my laptop

Specs
I7 4th gen
8gb ram
Gtx 850m 4gb
1tb hdd

And can you refer an IDE like ms VS

Damn it, Visual Studio 2017! :( It crashed without reason and then upon restart ate up all my RAM. Killing all processes in Task Manager helped a little, but something was still using up a little too much of the CPU and RAM.

Visual Studio Freaking 2017 and still no freaking XAML intellisense for freaking Xamarin.

Freaking spent more than one hour searching for a freaking fix in vain. Might as well have used that freaking hour and learn the whole freaking Xamarin.Forms XAML vocabulary. This shit sucks.

Just Installed visual studio 2017 haven't used it yet but am already impressed by the installation time for the first time I have visual studio install at less than 30 minutes considering I was installing the whole xamarin package too.

Visual Studio and its compatibility with Linux applications.
I don't know if I'm the only one, but this is my setup:
- Visual Studio 2017 on Windows 10
- Ubuntu 18.04 subsystem on Windows

I just can't do any Linux coding in Visual Studio... it is using my subsystem as a Remote Compiler and debugger, and a simple Hello World program does build and run successfully, but EVERY SINGLE LINE HAS ERRORS! It can't find stdio.h! Not a single include file works! They get auto-completed so it knows where the files are, but apparently opening them to see all the methods is too much for Visual Studio! I'd say the problem has something to do with IntelliSense since only inside the IDE my code has errors, compiling (which happens on the subsystem) works like a charm.

What IDE do you guys use?

I use notepad++, Codeanywhere and Visual Studio 2017 Pro.

I'm looking for decent code completion with internal referencing to keep track of methods and variable.

Would you recommend staying with VS or how about intelliJ?

Or something new?

How does everyone feel about Visual Studio 2017? I think it's better than 2015 but has a long way to go.

Thoughts?

Well i need to get a laptop but i can't sort out what to buy.
I'll be using visual studio 2017 at uni and I'll be working with different IDEs for fine tuning my web skills.
I might use it for photo and videography related work and making models and mods for games...
I'm a pretty confused man who wants to try everything to get a taste ....
What do you guys suggest?
// No Macs please !

I enjoy Visual Studio, but the installer is GARBAGE.

My install of 2017 didn't come with a certain package, so I go to the installer to add it. Thing constantly fails with "could not find file" in the txt log. Decided I might as well update studio while I'm here. Turns out I had python packages for it too, since during this update python decided to have a fit in another project because modules and pylint suddenly disappeared.

Wtf?

How come Unity is faster at compiling c# than Visual Studio Community 2017?

Got to install bitbucket extension in visual studio 2017, cancelling in the middle of process.

Trying to open visual studio again, getting error "The setup for this installation of Visual Studio is not complete".

Looking for the way how to fix that problem..... and found one !!

The way to solve this problem is run "InstallCleanup", after the process done, the error has change .....

"Windows is searching for devenv.exe", then click command windows and looking for "devenv".

After the problem solve my visual studio downgrade itself and became VS 2015 Professional

Oh man... Visual studio 2017 community needs >50 GB...
That would took almost a day for me... Or longer xD

When Visual Studio fails to update app.config with the correct package references.

I came across an issue with Visual Studio 2017. I'm unable to collapse multiline comments, there is no - sign in front of it like with code blocks.

At home it is no issue and I can do this without problems.
Ive looked online and all I can find is people not being able to collapse comments in VS Code. And people who want to collapse everything but the comments, but the comments do get collapsed.

Is it a setting I cannot find?

Im trying to install visual studio 2017 at my work for 3 hours now. Why wont it continue after downloading the assets. Fuck my fucking life.

How is visual studio 2017? Worth upgrading? I have 2015 version now

Come on visual studios download faster I want to play

Fuck Visual Studio 2017. Fuck Roslyn. Fuck those constant shitty updates fucking up random things. Fuck most of my day being spent on not coding but fighting shitty ass laggy interface. Fuck having to work around buggy tools. Fuck features. Fuck no bugfixes. Fuck branch prediction. Fuck bloated software. Fuck Electron.

Does anyone else have the problem that the XAML design window in VS2017 kind of freezes all the time? Can't zoom in/out or click on any element in it. Not that I develop anything in the design anyway, but clicking on an element it's a comfy way to find the corresponding XAML code.

Why the fuck does Visual Fucking Studio SSIS delete scripts in script codes? A completely bullshit bug in VS 2017, completely in fucking excusable to find my fucking scripts GONE when I try to run the package. Download it from TeamCity? Still gone.

How does a business like MICROSOFT let this sort of bug even happen?

have anyone tried to install visual Studio professional 2017... it stucked so don't know what to do now... I don't want to lose all the progress T.T

Went to a dotNET interview yesterday and I had to do a simple MCV app. They were using Visual Studio 2017, so I thought "cool! I can use some C# 6-7 features!". But for some reason it didn't build...and the errors were not very helpful!

Also my ajax calls kept refreshing the page, even though I was calling preventDefault() in the form submit action 😣

Trying to...

- Visual Studio 2017 released in 2016 with internal version number 15.9.38 with MSVC v14.0
- CUDA 8.0 with NVidia Nsight VS integration 5.3
- GTX 1080 GPU with compute capability 6.1
- Windows 10 SDK with 10.0.17763.0

Will it work? I don't fucking know because your versioning and documentation SUCKS!

For some time now it has become a number one mission for basically every tech company to rebrand, reversion and what not their products. It's obviously done with the purpose of confusing the customers, leading them on to buy/work with the wrong item, which of course leads to another purchase and hours of frustration and wasted time. This is not how business should be conducted, you dumbasses!

Visual Studio. Slow cheetah plugin allows you to transform your app.config so to have different files for release and build. yes, because with Visual Studio 2017 we need a third-party tool to do that. Are there any vs-native alternatives? Yes. Are they good? So and so. That's what I think, but slowcheetah has 300k downloads, so many people seem to be using it.

Worth jumping to visual studio 2017 from 2015?

In Visual Studio 2017, when an error occurs and you hover your cursor over it, you cannot copy the fucking error to do a Google Search. Who was the idiot that didn't think this through?
The ONLY way is to go to the separate Error List in the bottom, and even then I can only copy all or nothing.
Man, fuck Unity for not having a better default IDE already...

What is a good autocomplete ai like tabnine or kite but it supports visual studio 2017?