@TeachMeCode alkaseltzer isnt mean to be steadily taken.

@jestdotty i know you mentioned autotelic before... you seem to think 'i am autotelic, therefore not autistic' which isnt a logical sfance. Factually, being very autotelic statistically means you're more likely autistic.

Russia, i dont have a bad opinion of "Russia". I have many russian friends and know russian. My viewpoint is simple, they have subpar healthcare that often ignores and/or fails to diagnosis, much less properly treat anything in the area of psych, not great in neuro(and others in HC). Therefore itd be unwise to use russia as a solid source for these things. It'd be like sourcing your info on lasertag popularity and tactics from a burmese kid... illogical.

That said, putin is a, somewhat one-note dictator that acts like a 12 yr old, with a napoleon complex trying to gaslight in russia.

So... i may already have made a script that spams curated junk mail. If i did make such a thing, i made and/or used it well past legal statutes for prosecution for valid reasons like negating an unfair class-wide punishment assignment given technically after the bell rang/class ended because of an emotional response of our world religions teacher in high school for 1 kid annoying him. Possibly also simulated an inception-esq caution of karma in a person(s) who was ignoring their conscience in a way that was harmful to innocents.

Totally real emails were used... possibly. Itd have been back when those quiz sites were rampant, and while they claim to be 'processing' your result, ask for your email-- just for the results... ofc... theyd have 100+ questions to answer hoping youd get worn out and click the obfuscated 'send me tons of spam about this' option instead. With even ~10 quizzes itd have been pretty easy to automate entry/submission and even catalogue them for a curated exp.

@jestdotty
https://kar.kent.ac.uk/id/document/...

Any citing of Russia's opinion of, well... almost anything, but certainly something like this where their infrastructure for irl research is extremely inept, is simply ridiculous.

Since i 'met' you, you've shown an inherent negative viewpoint of "autism" with an explicit lack of knowledge and comprehension of what defines autism. Nearly all of your commentary aimed at dispelling any idea that you're autistic, has done the opposite. This time, you mention being autotelic as if it makes autism less likely... there's a high correlation.

Frankly, aside from the general, factually flawed and very outdated, viewpoint of it being innately a handicap disorder, primarily of dysfunction (which i view as quite beneath you-- due to actual intelligence), i dont get why you seem to think it's leprosy.

@jestdotty no... both are autopilot. That's the whole point. It's about the innate format of default thought (incl. cognition) patterns.

Either system can choose to cognise/think about/consider additional variables and base action on these factors. It's just the difference in the instinct-adjacent initial inclination.

It's like if, with no witnesses, potential recording, etc., someone finds a case full of millions of dollars. Many people only think 'yay money! *all the things they can do/solve/etc with that money. Many immediately jump to firmly believing It's a trap and/or unnecessarily very dangerous, and that's all to convince them to stay away/ignore it. Then there's some that are aware of both the happy/helpful side and plausible dangers.

Any type can habitually choose to ignore logic or embrace and delve into it, before finalising their stance and/or intended next action.

@nike

So...

"Real-world philosophical implications"

AI has active real-world implication already. So, not only would that be redundant to state, you ref it like you're foreshadowing something yet to come-- a very broad&&nonspecific class of *thing* that every barely literate human online is aware/frequently assailed by the current existence of.

But, wait!... there's more!

You almost make a Quantum Leap, doubling down on an already shaky, cracked foundation-- exponentially multiplying your ignorant, redundant, late to the party, claim... "real-world philosophical".
So, it's real, worldly, study in the real, world (Redundant²), or the most base, fundamental lvl of systematic investigation-- ofc ++entanglement

Alas: What "philosophical implications" wouldn't, innately&&inherently, be "real-world"???

Btw, how tf do you think sending defs, that don't, at all, define the root, isnt proving my point?-- you're a philosophaster.

Do u "Get. The picture."? (<your sht grammar)

@nike
Oh yes! I reeeeally get the picture now. You're a completely, wilfully, ignorant moron.

The 3 links you gave:
(Ignoring the fact Merriam-Webster is a joke that frequently adds misuse of terms and slang typos just to print/sell new editions)

1- "real-world"
Innately self explanatory and literal with very little plausible misinterpretation.

2- "philosophical"
Link just references "philosophy", aka the root term that I'm more certain you don't understand.

>> https://etymonline.com/word/...
OG (original greek)= love/affection/attentiveness for knowledge
Modern alteration= "the body of highest truth, the science of the most fundamental matters" ranging from physical science to the source of existence.

3- "implication"
Your link(like #2) only points to the verb 'to imply', no actual meaning of the core term.

>>
https://etymonline.com/word/...
Actual meaning= entanglement/close connection.

...

@MammaNeedHummus
no. Youre wrong. AIs dont "think" they process logical/quantifiable data and act based on the extrapolation.

So, the 'AI' has calculated/judged/concluded that he is in the same catagory(-ies)/subsets, effectively the same as, sterotypical (and likely low variation with lack of ingenuity) non-human objects that corrupt genuine data pools.

That's more accurate/rings true... Right @nike ?

Side Note: I really wonder if twitch actually employs any genuine AI, or if it's just another pile of static algorithms.

...that said, nowadays any bot/script/application can easily, freely, meet the criteria to be technically considered as AI-powered (or informally an AI). Just link any function to chatGPT api, even just implement it in a totally inconsequential way, then it *technically* AI. Though i highly doubt the majority of those hopping on the AI buzzword wagon care enough to be semantically and/or effectively accurate.

@Demolishun dude... wanna sign an NDA so I can tell you what im building? Literally everything you mentioned there, discord, shitty data collection policies, etc., is inherently on the chopping block, to be pwned by our future systems. Also, i think i may have been creating the terminator version (rather the good intent one) of discord bots. Seriously though, idk if there's a more overpowered and connected discord bot than the one's ive been creating.

@jestdotty neurotypicals cognise other people somewhat on autopilot. The thing you're still missing whilst confirming is, imo, the core of autism. Its not can/cant cognise others; it's simply that it doesnt happen automatically/by default.

Personally, i think autism is a positive, evolutionary trait, just still has a bit more debugging required.

Like with most words in most languages, i tend to go off the literal, etymologically defined, definition. Autism comes from greek "autos".

Technically the term was initially used for a specific part of psych disorders like schizophrenia. But, the root origin is still valid. 'Autos', in old greek, is literally 'self', if self was a verb. There's not a simple direct translation for autos, in english or any language i know. It's like a self-contained machine (or organism) that innately functions on its own.

@jestdotty everything you're saying is just validating my point.

The SIMs thing that you keep skating past isnt that you (or i) cognise people like npcs or SIMs, it's literally that we dont cognise them as anything.

The people that approach you because they remember an encounter with you when you dont, same thing. You mention it as if it negates my point, but it just proves it. I didn't say that youd remember people that remembered you, as if your interaction had a much higher value to them than you... i specifically mentioned it as a nearly reversed situation.

Aside from some extremely odd (and rare) instances of asymptomatic migraines causing transient amnesia, my memory is extensive and accurate to an extreme level. But, it's not rare that someone contacts me, expecting i remember them, can describe an encounter with me (even at my house) enough that it's clearly true. Without something remarkable(weird name, something i find ridiculous, etc) as a trigger idr them.

@devJs
Simply put, i have nearly a literal 0 idea what's standard, common practice or even if others would comprehend my methods... i just know how to engineer stuff that works and suits necessary, logical, params.

Fyi, my engineering ability isn't just code/*ware. Ive tutored multiple people through both electrical and mechanical engineering degrees (it might be genetic, my grandpa, who i have a mixed opinion of, created/patented hundreds of things in mech/electrical engineering).

For example, i needed a wall in my 2-door 2-car garage. I needed/wanted it built immediately, am physically handicapped (incl a highly dysfunctional left arm), wanted it to appear unmovable yet didnt want to permanently alter structure in case i ever sell. No clue what the 'right' way is, i just know a lot of physics and housing code. I made 2 partitions, each with 3 hinged segments of 3ft 8in wide x ~8ft (to exact joists), 2x4 frames and wall panels secured to 2 dollies, connected via 2 giant cable ties

@devJs

I see...

Personally, I rarely work with typical widgets. It's not that it's out of my expertise to do something like that. Just reading your comment I thought of a few sure ways to accomplish those params (not like 'i probably could do X if i look it up or use some framework... like down to the file structure, dbs, call methods etc... my brain thinks about everything that way, im autistic af and have been programming since 6 or 7(depending on if you count cli scripting and regedits)).

ChatGPT calls me legacy and my code "complex" or "advanced" (thats just from when i tried to have it comment shit since idfk what to comment or where).

If i needed to make that thing id likely end up just writing it as individual elements stacked on top of eachother and called by a function that passes a key for verification of the instance while requiring the wrapper-like code to verify params of the pseudo-widget and vice versa. Ofc itd be easier to set a custom api or even webhook to do it

@jestdotty
But if someone shows u a current picture or otherwise directly links to something youd have witnessed, youre likely to remember them.

Actual NPCs (like the ones with dialogue, names and/or part of quests) youre way more likely to pay attention to. They are intentionally in focus and an entity you need to acknowledge and/or converse with to do *whatever* in the game. The SIMs ref is like everyone else is essentially 'Villager #2' or lower(even uncredited). They exist, you saw that there was other characters in the background and have a general idea they exist plus some generic traits (like 'an older guy with a pitchfork/looked angry')... but u dont consider them unless prompted.

@jestdotty i wasn't directly suggesting that it was applicable to you... but now i am lol.

Your response, imo, clearly puts you in an, at least, adjacent catagory to me, and is a major flag to my preexisting theory you're autistic.

If you reread the explanation (written verbatim) i was given, youll see they never refd the initial phrasing (see/view). They suggest (& confirmed since) that I'm not actually considering the rest of the SIMs world at all, aside from momentarily when they could be of use as a tool.

Specifically, i (and clearly you) dont consider them as better or worse, nor care enough to pay attention unless necessary. It's not about having a heart or not; no malintent or anything else. It's like if you went out to do any mundane task, whether grocery shopping or a physical, big-ish, conference. Unless they reeeeally stick out, smell bad, are dressed weird, cause trouble/annoyance, etc. u dont even think about them.

@jestdotty the SIMs thing has been proven more and more accurate over the last decade+.

The analogy thing is accurate. I know so many languages and, especially in english, have a vocabulary so vast that you'd need a doctorate or some insane level of adjacent xp to comprehend a convo with me if I'm not holding back... or some seriously quick skill with a dictionary-- not the pocket versions. Even if typical humans understood all the words I do, i bet itd be the same, unless they are an expert in the field of discussion as well.

Analogies are still, by far, the most likely to get someone to understand. Since I employ people that aren't native english speakers (and their native language isnt in my top 7 in fluency), i rely on them daily... add in the autistic genuis with no valid frame of ref for neurotypicals and it's very vital.

@jestdotty im very chill about things too... comments like yours tend to shine with a glaring light towards what 3 (otherwise disconnected, ignorant of eachother/the commentary) close friends have described my general view of humans as:
"You view the world and everyone in it like a game of the SIMs."

I ofc asked for clarification as it sounds like a negative or insult but came from people who genuinely like me for whatever reason.

One explanation (the 2 others concurred):
'No one plays comparing themselves to pixel people and thinking like "I'm better than you pixel SIMs guy!"... or the reverse and being all defensive. Thatd be insane; they're not real people. They exist on totally different planes of existence... People normally have like 1 or 2 families that they care about, then just tweak everything around them so they do well. They don't care what happens to the rest."

The aided/defended SIMs are apparently my friends; everyone else are just NPC pawns to experiment/play with.

@devJs well that's because, like most scripted languages it wasn't intended to be used that way. Use java or one of the Cs.

@jestdotty glad u understand basic economics... unfortunately the vast majority of society doesnt, and they comprise the bulk of the voting pool.

Labour unions tend to cause similar issues. I've explained the inherent problems with these systems to MANY people. Both were created initially waaaaay before the internet, most workplace safety protocols, mass transit, etc.

The original reason for these are non-issues nowadays(at least in the countries thatd actually enforce them)... hazardous work conditions(lactual hazard not from wilful ignorance) and lack of readily available, comprehendable, laws (both immigrants and typical non-lawyers). Of course non-english-speaking immigrants, especially in industries built in with 'company towns', got the worst.

Nowadays they just mentally handicap weak-minded people into a trench of non-evolving survival, doing the bare minimum to not be canned. It's similarly true for those auto price sites and reducing reliance on tipping practices.

I bet that person wasn't old enough to comprehend the last extreme, societally crippling, tech doomsday that didnt happen-- Y2K.

Now, how do we take full advantage of the fear-mongered lemmings this time around? Or will overpriced, effectively useless, bug-out bags and other crap that's rebranded for apocalyptic prepping work as well?

@Demolishun @TeachMeCode
Freshman yr(hs) i competed in Forensic speech, specifically, Extemporaneous.

You drew 3 papers/questions chosing 1 to give a 7m editorial (factually supported opinion) speech. 30m from draw to delivering the speech. No talking to others, only had resources you lugged there.

Our team had me (aka an engineer and networking pro who already built drivers/scripts so my palm treo's internet connected several devices, shocking competitors), but this was a dead zone, Beaverton, MI.

The questions were anything, but often current events and/or politics. Every few tournaments thered be a round of atypical questions, often for the amusement of whoever ran the prep room.

Speaking last, i got the worst choices. The best of the 3 was "Is Cartoon Network evil?". My answer is the same as now. Acknowledging the potential rationale for yes-- negative implications of overindulgence and adult content(adult swim), yet ultimately, no-- focusing the responsibility on parents.

@Demolishun i wish you knew german; there's a new song or 2 that youd really enjoy.

@MammaNeedHummus i disagree... professional means they get paid to do *whatever*. I doubt it.

... but then again, the fact that indian 'devs' still use whois info to email and cold call people, hoping to scrounge up work means that some dumbasses pay for crap like that.

@nike real world philosophical??? Now im pretty confident u dont know what irony or philosophy is.

@devJs at least js is big enough to have several options for most things (still a double-edged blade).

@jassole politely turn down is still leagues better than no response. Also, how do you know if it's been attempted before? Pretty nihilistic way to think/act. Reminds me of the people who bitch about politics but dont vote because 'my 1 vote can't change anything'.

I have generally the same viewpoint as i did in high school when my intended path was a currently non-existent career where i solved a core issue and also would replace and optimise the role of 4+ otherwise necessary hires... make yourself an appealing hire at a tolerable(typically uncomfortable) rate. Then integrate and become nearly indispensable where itd be much more work and cost to fire you than accept your demands, especially if the demands come at a crucial, all hands on deck, time.

Back in hs i was going to design and translate UIs so it made sense to normal, non-dev, humans instead of the unintuitive design with translations being provided like a kindergarten game of telephone. Ofc this was back before UI design was a known career path, "UX" didn't exist, UI was actually EUI and google translate was soooo much worse.

Though im totally aware of the current bs hiding behind obfuscation standards... there's a very valid reason for not stating it publicly. It's along the same lines as how i explain the shit reality of minimum wage to those ignorant and at that low wage point in some unskilled labour post.

If they standardise it there's an inherent trap for making it significantly less than someone's actual value and forces an env with more shit workers, and shit practices, to exist in order to meet their necessary recs. Basically it makes it necessary to account for everything from excessive training and laziness to highest plausible turnover rates and severely increased liklihood of , unwarranted, lawsuits for unlawful firing. These are forced to a much higher calculated margin. Also makes it harder to promote/increase pay for those deserving it.

Ive always been in a solid position to negotiate (or demand) my rate, but I've consulted/changed hiring policy in many businesses over the years.

@jassole are you aware that it's much more impolite and directly troublesome to people when you dont respond? Plus it supports that type of ignorant bs when no one directly calls them on that bs.

I see it kinda like the ridiculously high number of, mainly, females in the 'dating' pool. I likely have a unique perspective as im significantly younger than the vast majority of my friends and typically the only female in groups of guys (best, platonic, friends dubbed me a "hot dude with a vagina").

Most of the time, when a chick has a really annoying habitual issue, esp hygiene or an unrealistic concept of skill, they will be avoided in the future, unless someone's really desperate. Very rarely will anyone tell them they need to learn hygiene or lack skill/do something very wrong. While i understand how this happens, it just makes the issues more rampant. Ofc most will initially ignore/curse you, but if the sentiment is recurring theyll get the picture. Imo it's societal responsibility.

@fullstackcircus not cranky, just easily annoyed. It's mainly stuff that's redundant without valid reason and/or the crap that's created to support ignorance/stupidity/unwarranted laziness on a mass level. It's most annoying when the previous, totally functional, system is replaced...

NetworkManager on linux. It's way simpler to just use network scripts.

Lack of a directly functional power button on computers.

Windows replaced the ability of a universal admin account with a pseudo admin role that takes several steps if you actually want to run your scripts or use the system, especially without constant 'are you reeeeally sure' prompts.

My new fridge that starts beeping by default if the door is open beyond a few sec.

Nearly every available managed switch(incl 64 or 128 rack mounts) having some "smart chip" instead of simply using basic scripting.

Basically anything that's automatic by default-- OneDrive/any cloud crap, updates, startup repair, tags/brackets, etc.