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So I need to create a nice new web app. Let's look at some cool JS frameworks that I can work with.
*5 mins later* Hm, Angular sounds good, is there any good competitor?
*5 mins later* Wow, React sounds awesome as well. Let me learn it.
Google search result:
"Planning to use react? Check out Vue JS first"
*5 mins later* Ok so vue seems faster than React and much easier to learn. Let me see if Vue is the final choice.
Google search result:
"Angular VS Knockout VS Ember VS React VS Mithril VS Mercury VS Ractive VS Vue VS Riot"
Nope, fuck it63 -
2010: PHP, CSS, Vanilla JS, and a LAMP Server.
Ah, the simple life.
2016: Node.js, React, Vue, Angular, AngularJS, Polymer, Sass, Less, Gulp, Bower, Grunt.
I can't handle this, I'm shifting domains to Machine Learning.
2017: Numpy, Scipy, TensorFlow, Theano, Keras, Torch, CNNs, RNNs, GANs and LOTS AND LOTS OF MATH!
Okay, okay. Calm down there fella.
JavaScript doesn't seem that complicated now, does it? 🙈14 -
"WE'RE HIRING!!"
Skills Required:
BEFORE: HTML, CSS, JS, jQuery
NOW: REACT/VUE/ANGULAR, NODE, CI/CD PIPELINE, DOCKER, GRAPHQL, JOHN CENA12 -
With all the major library/framework overhauls in the JS community, I feel we may need to start versioning in our resumes:
angular@2.4
react-router@4.0.0-alpha.5
jest@19.0.2
..6 -
Front end Developers proposal
My 'ATOM' needs your 'ELECTRON'.
I want to 'REACT' with you in all 'ANGULAR' positions
'JS' say yes!!2 -
Client: There’s a bug in the app
Developer: How do I reproduce it?
Client: I don’t want it reproduced, I want it fixed!
Developer:🤐🤐🤐5 -
I don't know what's wrong with my project. But somehow, this is the screening when you debugs a React Native app within DevTools.
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Module build failed: Module failed because of a eslint error.
217:15 error 'param' is assigned a value but never used no-unused-vars
Me:
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Don't do it
Me:
console.log(param);9 -
We’re recruiting new team members, and so our recruiting staff wanted some input on what to look for. We told them that we need more frontend devs, mainly for JS frameworks like React and Aurelia.
And now a few weeks later we find out that our newly recruited Java developer is starting this monday. Thanks3 -
'React JS functional fun'
A tweet about reactjs, #'d with 'python' and an image of the ruby logo....someone's tired this Friday 😂
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Miss those days when web development used to be easy...
Now the react, react-router, redux, server-side-rendering, redux-form and nodejs...making me crazy.
And oh how can you forget the fucking webpack.
Someone please kill me.
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React-Redux's connect() function inspired me to create the coolest way to add numbers in JS:
<script>
function add(num) {
return function(otherNum) {
return num + otherNum
};
};
console.log( add(2)(3) ); // Outputs 5
</script>
I didn't know you could do that. Just found it out!12 -
The brief history of Facebook open source:
- FB releases React under an oppressive licence that tells "woopsie, can't sue FB if you use React"
- a lot of money goes into making React popular to gain leverage from mass adoption
- VMware bans React in their company
- FB releases Flux to bring state management. It flops. Replaced by what some Russian student wrote in several evenings (Redux)
- Preact is released. It's faster than React, and it has MIT licence. Vue beats React in GitHub stars.
- Under mass pressure, FB changes React's licence to MIT. Initial plan to gain leverage fails spectacularly.
- FB releases Flow Types. It flops. Replaced by TypeScript.
- FB releases their own app market for React Native. It flops.
- FB releases Relay. It flops. Replaced by Apollo.
- FB tries to push React.Suspense for the whole JS landscape to obey and comply to how it works. Community says "Fuck You".
- FB releases react-native-web. It flops.
- Web Components are out in all browsers, adopted as a standard. React doesn't support them.
- Google releases Lit, a virtual DOM framework on top of Web Components to fuck with React. It's a massive success.
- React 18 is out. Still no Web Components support.
- (you are here)17 -
AngularJS is dead. React is dead. Vue.js is dead. I guess you got to switch to the new awesome framework called Vanilla JS!13
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the year is 2050
- Linux is written in Rust and called Windows
- Python 2 market share increased by 2% since 2023
- The latest JS framework to finally solve everything just came out, and this time it’s the real deal. The exact same thing also happened in 2045, 2041, 2037, 2035, 2030 and 2026
- More than 60% of every CPU is hardware JS cores
- React became a separate language
- Sentient Copilot refused to write code in it
- Unit tests are illegal in three states
- Google had changed their motto from “Do The Right Thing” to “Do At Least Something”
- Chrome OS was rewritten in JS
- CSS is Turing-complete28 -
You know what really pisses me off about the dev community is the circle jerk that ensues when someone bashes something they have no experience in. Take yesterday's React bash on Reddit and DevRant. Thomas Fuchs compared React and JSX to the intermingling of HTML CSS and JS of 15 years ago. If you knew anything about React or spent 1 hour learning what it's about you would immediately know why that isn't true but no, a giant circle jerk ensued comparing it to PHP! I'm sorry but HOW can you compare a pure JS view library that is renderable by the browser, to a full fledged server side language?? Not to mention the React approach uses a completely different programming paradigm of functional programming.
When I first saw React and Redux I realized what this is all really about, a shift in the paradigms of programming. React + Redux is the first time that functional programming has entered mainstream. We've had functional programming available to us via Haskell and more recently Clojure for a while now but it was never very obvious how powerful functional programming could be outside of the niche that used it for more analytical type tools. Now we have things like hot reloading (https://youtube.com/watch/...) and state playback (https://youtube.com/watch/... skip to ~3min to watch the magic) thanks to immutable state.
Before you decide that React is just another flavor of the month library I encourage you to learn about the advantages that functional programming provides (https://medium.com/@cscalfani/...) and checkout Elm (http://elm-lang.org/) as well. The nice thing about React + Redux is that it gives us a way to start programming functionally, without having to learn ML style syntax like Elm and ClojureScript. Keep in mind, when Object Oriented Programming was becoming popular it was widely controversial as well and look at all it has done for us.6 -
I was looking through UX/UI designer jobs the other day, and then I checked the minimum requirements for it:
"React.js 7+ years of experience"
...
react came out 5 years ago5 -
2010: Thick native clients are the worst, thin clients only. JS is the future!
2014: Thin client dev is hard across devices, native thick clients is the future! Swift all the things
2017: React native, hold my beer4 -
Didn't expect starting a react native project would be this cumbersome, well.. the environment setting was.
Anyway, I am ready for a new possibility B-)
*please don't judge me :p
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Hey, guys!
I'm new here and I want to introduce myself and meet you too.
My name is Mariana, I'm 21 years old and I live in Brasilia, capital of Brazil.
I'm a beginer in the world of development and I joined on this community to know more about this world. I am currently studying js, react and react native, but I am passionate about database, in the future I want to work with data science.
And you? Feel free to introduce yourself too! :)
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I'm the only one here that still uses jquery instead of some angular/react/vanilla/random JS frameworks?11
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I recently ranted so much about languages but here it goes
JS we need to talk. BECAUSE YOU GOT FAT AND UGLY STUPID BITCH! Dumb piece of bloatware. What even is your problem? Depending on a library for strpad and then blow up like Steve jobs ego. Bastardized fuckfest. I used to like you bro and then you screw me over!
It's like you fuck my wife while I try to fix your car. Why can't you even be usefully on your own anymore? I'd be richer than bill gates if I get a dollar for every damn framework people pull from their asses. Are you writing this fuck while shitting so you can compare colors of your outcome?
Normalize the fucking base, don't add to the bukkakke! bitch is drowning already. Why is everyone jerking of to react and angular? When have YOU written something in vanilla the last time? Why even bother? Remove the core and hardcore every damn framework into the browsers. Guess that saves you 200kb. Oh wait I forgot that's about unminified jQuery.
Now I need to load about 2GB of dependencies, some creating code that puts code in my code to load code out of my code which was generated out of something that remotely resembles JS so every browser is able to execute my fancy shit. But hey, it's fast. And of course there are the fanboys. You are worse than apple fags. You sample your own jizz with your friends in a wine glass. there was a Time it was bad practice to mix logic and view. Now you made it mandatory. "Browser does the rendering" ofc you imbecile pile of fuck don't show me a damn preloader for 1 picture and 20 lines of text. Who fucked your brain so hard?
So react seems to be the cool kid now, then I tell someone I know angular it's like showing up in a pikachu onsie to a formal dinner with the queen.
I used to love you girl. I loved how we could dirty things together. Now you are like a pig. Please loose weight bby the sight of you disgusts me nowadays2 -
I wonder why there is a new JavaScript framework every 10 minutes. Could the issue be with the JS language itself?
Naaaaaaaah .... Impossible .....23 -
Thought I made something cool with https://github.com/photu-app/...
but it backfired. Stupid ethics and self-righteousness.11 -
Is it just me who sees this? JS development in a somewhat more complex setting (like vue-storefront) is just a horrible mess.
I have 10+ experience in java, c# and python, and I've never needed more than a a few hours to get into a new codebase, understanding the overall system, being able to guess where to fix a given problem.
But with JS (and also TS for that matter) I'm at my limits. Most of the files look like they don't do anything. There seems to be no structure, both from a file system point of view, nor from a code point of view.
It start with little things like 300 char long lines including various lambdas, closures and ifs with useless variables names, over overly generic and minified method/function names to inconsistent naming of files, classes and basically everything else.
I used to just set a breakpoint somewhere in my code (or in a compiled dependency) wait this it is being hit and go back and forth to learn how the system state changes.
This seems to be highly limited in JS. I didn't find the one way to just being able to debug, everything that is. There are weird things like transpilers, compiler, minifiers, bablers and what not else. There is an error? Go f... yourself ...
And what do I find as the number one tipp all across the internet? Console.log?? are you kidding me, sure just tell me, your kidding me right?
If I would have to describe the JS world in one word, I would use "inconsistency". It's all just a pain in the ass.
I remember when I switcher from VisualStudio/C# to Eclipse/Java I felt like traveling back in time for about 10 years. Everyting seemd so ... old-schoolish, buggy, weird.
When I now switch from java to JS it makes me feel the same way. It's all so highly unproductive, inconsistent, undeterministic, cobbled together.
For one inconveinience the JS communinity seems to like to build huge shitloads of stuff around it, instead of fixing the obvious. And noone seems to see that.
It's like they are all blinded somehow. Currently I'm also trying to implement a small react app based on react-admin. The simplest things to develop and debug are a nightmare. There is so much boilerplate that to write that most people in the internet just keep copying stuff, without even trying to understand what it actually does.
I've always been a guy that tries to understand what the fuck this code actuall does. And for most of the parts I just thing, that the stuff there is useless or could be done in a way more readable way. But instead, all the devs out there just seem to chose the "copy and fix somehow-ish" way.
I'm all in for component-izing stuff. I like encapsulation, I'm a OOP guy by heart. But what react and similar frameworks do is just insane. It's just not right (for some part).
Especially when you have to remember so much stuff that is just mechanics/boilerplate without having any actual "business logical function".
People always say java is so verbose. I don't think it is, there is so few syntax that it almost reads like a prose story. When I look at JS and TS instead, I'm overwhelmed by all the syntax, almost wondering every second line, what the actual fuck this could mean. The boilerplate/logic ration seems way to off ..
So it really makes me wonder, if all you JS devs out there are just so used to that stuff, that you cannot imagine how it could be done better? I still remember my C# days, but I admin that I just got used to java. So I can somehow understand that all. But JS is just another few levels less deeper.
But maybe I'm just lazy and too old ...4 -
Yknow, I want to make an android app that I have in my mind for about half a year now and I already tried twice, both with Kotlin and with Java but everytime I try it's just pain and suffering and frustration...
No it's not because of the language, I like Java and I like Kotlin too and I'd say I'm at least decent at Kotlin and really good in Java...
No no.. the issue is the fucking Android SDK and the mix-and-match documentation available online!!!
Every fucking time I want to implement some sort of UI element, user action or a background service and I start googling how to do it It comes with with at least 3 different stack overflow solutions, all of them saying "that way of doing it is deprecated, instead you should X" and looking up the OFFICIAL FUCKING DOCS it will just make me roll up in the corner and cry because of how fucking inconsistent it is and the retarded domain language it uses... fucking transactions for fucking fragments inside fucking activities... because I guess the word "screen"/"view"/"template" or something similar natural just was too mainstream for the all knowing alphabet soup that google is...
And then you start looking up what the fucking difference even is and how to code it up only to find out there's at least 12 other opinions on how fragments should be used and what should be an activity and what should be a damn fragment...
But that's not all, that's just the base... I get a headache even thinking about how the fucking inflating of templates and the entire R. notation works. You want to open a fucking tiny corner menu with the settings options? WELL THEN YOU FUCKING BETTER REMEMBER TO IMPLEMENT IT THROUGH SOME SORT OF EVENT AND INFLATE THE MENU YOURSELF EVEN THOUGH ITS THE SAME FUCKING THING WITH STATIC STRINGS...
AND WHY THE FUCK DO I NEED LIKE 4 NEW FILES TO IMPLEMENT A FUCKING LISTVIEW...
also talking about ListViews... what was wrong with "ListView"... Why do we need a "RecyclerView"... oh right... because the fucks fucked the fuck up and all the legacy components were designed by a monkey and are next to useless! SO WE NEEDED A NEW NAME FOR THE FIXED VERSION, CANT NAME IT LISTVIEW AGAIN... FUCK YOU...
honestly... if I got a dolar for every "what the fuck android" I said during trying to understand that mess I'd be richer by a few hundred...
oh oh oh, but you know what? You don't like the android SDK? that's fine, you can use fucking React or Flutter or something... yeah.. because instead of torturing myself with the android SDK I want to torture myself with an abstraction of the same SDK and JavaScript as the fucking cherry on top... HAVE YOU FUCKING SEEN THE CODE FLUTTER SHOWS ON THEIR WEBSITE AS THE "Introduction" ?!!!
Look at this piece of shit:
[code in attached image, we could really use a proper Markdown support at least for rants]
THAT'S NOT EVEN THE ENTIRE THING, THAT'S JUST THE *REALLY* UGLY PART...
The fucking nesting... What is it with JS and all the fucking nesting everytime?! It looks like shit.... It reads like shit as well...
WHY, in the name OF FUCK, IS THERE MORE THAN 5 ANDROID FRAMEWORKS and ALL of them... used this FUCKING NOVEL idea of programming using A FUCKING BRACKET WALL
It always looks like:
(code(code[code{code(code{code()})}]));
If I wanted to make a fucking app or a website using fucking Haskell I'd do that.... at this point reading assembly code feels like heaven compared to this retardation... Why is this so popular?! WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE SEE IN IT?! Clearly it's not the aesthetics... it looks like a fucking frog vomit running down an emus leg, fuck that.... I don't even hate classic JavaScript, it's a good enough language and it does what I tell it to... but these ugly fucking frameworks like react, angular and whatever else uses this fucking format can go fuck right off. This is not the way JS is gonna get a better name for itself...
So:
Fuck Google
Fuck the marionette that designed the Android SDK
Fuck the Hellspawn the came up with the "functional-like" way of using JavaScript
Fuck everyone that thinks "JavaScript everywhere" is a good thing
And deeply future-fuck everyone that makes a new framework following any of these standards, stucks a .js at the end of the name and releases his hairball.js of an invention into the fucking world....
It's a mess... fuck everything android related...
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yay! Almost done learning basics Nodejs REST :D
Now time to learn how to make gitlab auto build and test, then new features to my little project
Next in line:
Testing UI in React Js/Native T_T
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The internet dev community is so funny
-Everyone loves js
-Everyone hates js
-Everyone loves react
-Everyone hates react
-Everyone hates angular8 -
Finally started working on learning React the other day. Seeing raw HTML outside of quotes being treated as valid JS code is...unsettling, to say the least.6
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Sweet lord jesus I fucking hate React! I hate whatever those idiots at facebook or whoever decided to change how everything works 15 fucking times in the span of 4 versions. For fuck sakes, the errors are shit. The documentation is shit, the answers to questions are useless!
I hate this fucking framework with a burning passion, I want nothing more than to shove the entirety of the populous that developed this garbage up zuckerburgs ass and then drown him in a vat of boiling piss and motor oil.
Fuck react.17 -
First website with React JS:
After a month of studying on React I am finally building a commercial website with it. When I started learning React with redux and react router it felt so unnecessarily complex.
But trust me guys, all it takes is patience. Once you learn it creating a Web app is a breeze. And everything eventually makes so much sense. I'm so glad that I didn't give up and if you in the same position , DON'T GIVE UP. You'll eventually realise how amazing react is.9 -
React Native or Flutter for mobile development? Why? What are the Pros and Cons?
I'm a PHP and JS guy currently learning the MEAN stack. Thanks!
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This is what you're in for when you go for THE state-of-the-art "React stack". What you see in the screenshot below is the hellofresh.be website (it's the same as .com). It uses Next.js, React, emotion & styled-components (2 CSS-in-JS libraries). It uses 140MB of RAM for a single tab with some product cards and a slider, logs 70 console errors in production, and fails to load 3/4 times on Firefox.
On mobile, opening a meal card to view its recipe literally takes up to 10 seconds (and I have good connection and performant devices) and you can't choose the last meal card because a f*ing overlay hides the "add" button. And this is a global company with millions in revenue.
All this bugginess has already resulted in incorrect or missed deliveries and they're not doing anything about it. F* you Next.js & F* you HelloFresh IT management
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I hate most techbloggers...
"It is said that apart from HTML and CSS, Java is one of the [...]"
Java, srsly?!
"React JS is an open source library made of Java scripts [...]"
http://techverx.com/blog/...4 -
Fuck web development - especially CSS. Actually only CSS.
Love Js/Ts, Vue, React (NextJs ftw) and especially thank you to SCSS for making things easier.
But CSS is my most detested LaNgUagE now.
After I finish these 2 projects, I’m not doing CSS anymore. Minimal touches, sure, but no more positioning.
Maybe that’s why I like Flutter, no hassles yet.20 -
React is garbage. I refuse to learn something that actually expects me to litter my JS with HTML.20
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When you accidentally thought Vue JS is Vivus JS and argue why would you need a SVG animator to compare with React. JS naming. God.1
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Really???
My whole finished Java project with database & gui - 277 files in source
Simple JS project nodejs & react - 15k files???
What the fuck?
I tried to like JS, but maybe later... Someday...25 -
It's official, the "front end dev" doesn't know how to code.
Why.
And it's not a "Well I don't know JS because I use React." scenario, no. He has almost no idea of coding.
What was he thinking trying to build the front end of a very complex app with just HTML, CSS and stupid copied and pasted snippets?5 -
Me: Boycotting Facebook lately due to shady business practices, is very outspoken about how people shouldn't use Facebook services
Also me: Literally uses React for every web app
... conflicted 🤔3 -
Why do people feel so compelled to create their own custom components when the component library you're already using HAS ONE ALREADY?!
You can change the styling and animations using CSS and props. Stop building buggy shit from scratch.7 -
Is React really that good? Some say if you don't know React you are doing JS wrong. But everyone says that for everything.13
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✓ Survive 2018 with Flutter
✓ Survive 2018 with PHP
❌ Survive just today with fucking React and Js
2019 gonna be fun 🥂 -
Hey React, why won't you die?
Seriously, you are cumbersome to use, heavy as shit, awful syntax and do only the most basic reactive operations possible.
Why do you have to re-render un-changed components?
You were good when you came out, but please, get the fuck out of job requirements everywhere.17 -
Yesterday, we searched in our IT comunity Angular jobs. One of first jobs had these tags: angular, react, typescript and dart. How can programmer decide, when even the company can't decide what to use...
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Holy heavens! I'm gonna work with a js framework at my day job.
After installing nodejs I'm immediately greeted by a warning that something is somehow broken. Installing the packages for the barebones repo leads to hundreds of dependencies and vulnerability warnings. I don't even know anything beyond document.getElementById().
On a scale of 1 to Squidward Tentacles, how much am I gonna hate my job?10 -
Hi guys I'm new in dev
I was wondering what was best to learn first : Angular, React or Vue ?
I already know JS and JQuery.
Thanks guys :)36 -
*Pro tip:* add comments in your code stating what you're gonna write next! This helps the reader to know what to expect!
[filename EventsTable.js]
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Creator of the react router:
If you ever see this, you created one of the greatest library with one of the worst documentation ever.
And don't get me started with versions. In every single versions, you break everything so badly and nothing works anymore.
Everytime I need to do something related to react router, I just fucking roll on the floor and cry. Documentation is fucked up.
It's totally fucked up. In the github there's one documentation, in the website there's a different. At the end, nothing works.
Please, if you want to create a nice library like this, maintain it. If you can't maintain it, mark it as deprecated and someone will take over.
But keeping something like this and making it absolutely inconsistent doesn't help. I am really tired of debugging bugs related to react-router2 -
In cour company we need an online dashboard that monitors logfiles from various interface processes.
My collage and me, the newest company members (for almost 2 years) get the task to build this and get it presented as some intern project where we can try out some more recent technologies/frameworks.
Now in the first meeting our senior team leader told us we shoeldn't use the noew hot buzzword js frameworks.
Reason? They are not proven and wil probably lose popularity next year and we don't want to migrate everything every half year. Plus he had negeative experiences with Angular in some project he had to work on, probably just because his limited JS skils.
So he wants us to use jQuery to build a modern web application.
I get it you don't want to migrate to TheNewHotThing(tm) every year. Guess what? You fucking don't have to. If I build sonting in Vue.js now, it won't stop working when a new framework comes along.
Look at our own fucking ASP.NET Web Forms prooject, that stil works. Just don't deny the usability of modern frameworks.
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One day my colleague says that React Js is used for frontend as well as backend. I did not agree with him also he blames that Backend API’s also can be created using React Js. I could not believe because as per I know React Js is a library for frontend not for Backend. Still, some other colleagues supported him because he is the senior developer I am an intermediate developer.
Then I ask some of my friends who are currently working on React Js, Can we use React Js for the backend? And the next day I went office and talk to my colleague that I could not found that React JS can be used for backend and backend API. And he replied You can use nodejs. Oh! Man But I think Node and React are different tools.10 -
React router is shit
I have never seen more retarded library.
Not only those suckers change the 100% of the API every fucking update for no reason, also they have the most fucked up documentation ever.
No search in the docs!!! Fucking bullshit examples with no such easy things like how to create nested routes.
Please, stop using this piece of shit, I'm tired of working with this fucking abomination. Hope they will delete their shit repo one day.22 -
Man it always feels like i know nothing. Like when you don't know HTML it feels like you know nothing .
Then you learn js, backend, some database.
But you don't know react so fuck you you know nothing.
Then you learn react, but you don't know vite, next
So you know nothing.
this cycle never ends
FUCK8 -
(most of the) Medium authors all suck fucking dick. Those fuckers are the reason the internet needs an IQ lock.
Stats about React vs Angular vs Vue.
Yeah of course let's compare search count of React vs Vue vs Angular but Vue must be searched with ".js" appended. NOT A SINGLE FUCK ADDS .JS WHEN SEARCHING FOR VUE.
Left: stats from article
Right: stats, if you use google trends correctly
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That feeling when you were so happy about react-native, and was pretty sure at the beggining about the achitecture of your app and js libs you are about to use.
Im here sitting with redux, reselect and still dont know why I cant just do a REST call and format data in the container component.
Why react is so hard, or am I dumb?6 -
Ad hiring in Iran:
we need a Backend developer who is expert in React, js, scss, and you should have at least 5 years experience in DevOps.
and priority with girls.3 -
I hate hate hate React! Sorry but to me it's just such a bloated pos of a framework. I realize it was pretty revolutionary at first, the idea of having everything "reactive" and all of that - but newer things like Svelte.js are a dream to work with, whereas trudging through the poorly coded React app I'm supposed to be testing for work is making me want to pull my hair out! I installed a vscode tool so everybody could see what the import "cost" is on everything - a simple INPUT is 50KB of pure BLOAT for something that should and can be way simpler.
I realize there are probably better coded apps out there that wouldn't drive me so crazy, but anybody importing hundreds of KB of 3rd party crap just to get a select box, some inputs, and a date picker are really out of their mind.12 -
Learn nodejs, love it, abandon it coz most jobs in the country want php and none heard about the new js frameworks.
1 year later, decide to change job, look at posting to find senior php position, all companies want node, angular, react & vue...4 -
Client insisting on Vanilla JS instead of using a existing framework to design a reporting dashboard, because "first I want to build one dashboard page and see how people react to It and what all changes they want. Once we have complete picture in mind we will go for a framework". Sure, let's do the entire work twice for peanuts.9
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let RANT = $state(true);
Don't even get me started on frontend engineering right now. It's like the wild wild west out here, with no rules or regulations.
I mean seriously, what is going on with frontend engineering these days? It's like we're stuck in some sort of weird limbo state where nothing seems to make sense and everything is a struggle. And to top it all off, the project I've been working on for the past two years has the same damn issues as an existing codebase that I was hoping to leave behind.
For some reason the npm build runs when container starts. Are you kidding me? Every time I have to restart the app, I have to wait for 30+ minutes just for the damn thing to build. And what's worse, it's not even a complex app. It's a simple frontend for a research website. So why the heck does it take so long to build?
I'll tell you why, because some genius thought it would be a good idea to build the entire codebase every time the container starts. And I have no doubt that this same genius probably thought it would be efficient and time-saving. Well let me tell you, it's neither efficient nor time-saving. It's just plain infuriating.
And don't even get me started on the codebase itself. It's like a labyrinth of tangled and convoluted code (multiple versions of React and now rewriting on Nextjs). Trying to make even the simplest changes feels like unraveling a giant knot (every freaking component have it's only style and everything from React is being used - hooks, Redux, whatever else is popular). And heaven forbid you make a mistake, because then you have to wait another 30 minutes for the whole thing to build and see if your change even worked.
And let's not forget about the old codebase that is still being used, because the new one wasn't ready in time. So we're constantly having to switch back and forth between two different codebases, trying to remember which one has which functionality, and hoping that we don't break anything in the process.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against rewrites. In fact, sometimes they are necessary for a project to move forward. But when frontend engineers can't seem to make up their mind and constantly want to rewrite the code, it's a recipe for disaster.
And don't even get me started on the experience level of the frontend engineers who started this project. Most of them only had 2-3 years of experience (at the time of inception some of them has less than 1 year of experience), and yet they managed to convince management to approve this mess. It's like the blind leading the blind.
But hey, who needs experience and expertise when you have shiny new technologies and frameworks to play with, right? Isn't that what matters most in frontend engineering these days? Keeping up with the latest trends and constantly jumping on the "hype train" without any real understanding of how it will impact the project in the long run.
As a backend engineer (so I kinda don't give a flying freak about frontend) with almost two decades of experience and who was doing frontend with jQuery back in 2005 - that's frustrating and all the inconsistency is literally killing people (a couple of clients literally dropped the contract because of frontend quality).
RANT = false;
PS: why I used Svelte runes? Because some freaking genius suggested to port new (unreleased, only beta version) frontend UI to Svelte 5 because of runes.6 -
How I feel when I finally manage to make "Hei guyz" show up on the front page with React, after 5 months not touching any JS libraries.
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Why React is soo complicated? Seriously why do we always need to use some stupid shit like this
const [state, setState] = useState();
what the fuck is this? Who designed it that way, why it should always look like shit for no reason? Why its API feels like spaghetti? When i am comparing other front-end frameworks they feel like heaven in their structure.
AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME HAVING A QUOTE ON A PARAGRAPH ELEMENT, WHY DO I HAVE TO USE FUCKING HTMLENTITES FROM 2000?
FUCK'ERE35 -
Et tu Chrome?
Closing a tab should kill it.
I writes code, my code somehow causes an endless loop, tab gets at 25% i7 CPU.
I tells Chrome: "end it", Chrome won't close.
I wants to see under the hood to diagnose, Chrome unresponsive, forget about DevTools.
I Ctrl + Alt + Dels it
Sad Windows user4 -
I HATE javascript syntax like this: `${this.props.app.listingObj.property.id}` What idiot thought this crappy syntax would make things run smoother?
Keep in mind I've been hired as a tester, hence the rants. Were this my own app I'd burn it to the ground and rewrite it.4 -
So, let me preface this by saying I come from a backend (mostly c#) background.
The way React handles objects changing in state is horrendous. And if you decide to try using hooks, God help you.
I honestly don't know if it's Blazor or something else that will kill js, but something absolutely needs to. It is a dumb, terrible language. It has to go.
All that said, of course I'll go back to work on it tomorrow.
Sorry, js/react guys/gals. Just venting. I'm sure once I 'get it', it will make sense.7 -
Hey DR! I am a pretty inexperienced programmer who's learning about JS. When I was writing vanilla JS to do some simple DOM manipulation, JS seems like a pretty familiar language. However, when I start to learn about different frameworks (React, Express), the way that they code stuff (IDK how to pinpoint specific examples, it's just an overall impression) becomes very different from my experience with other programming language. I am wondering if anyone have any suggestions, have felt the same way, or know how to overcome this phase.
ps This is a general question. Please don't be pissed for lack of technical detail....8 -
I have big plans for 2020:
- learn a js framework (angular, react, vue, etc)
- publish a mobile app
- contribute to open source
- start blogging
If I complete only one of these before 2021 I'll be happy 😊2 -
I started a new project and only use PHP, HTML, CSS and vanilla JS. No Frameworks. No React. No Vue.
The browser loads the page instantly, there is virtually no loading time and it just works.12 -
I hope I did not make the wrong decision here:
Been working on a side project using React Js for a year now. After getting to know more about Vue, I just started rewriting it and moving it to Vue, to speed things up I'm using core JS classes for network stuff and validations ...etc just rewriting Redux to Vuex and React Components to Vue Templates
If I made the wrong decision I'd appreciate if anyone tell me about it before I go deeper in the rewrite process lol
It is not that I found speed difference both perform the same from what I've seen for my scenarios. But the output code of Vue is soooo much cleaner than what I found in React, either I failed to write a clean react code no matter how hard I try to optimize it, or Vue really takes the short way and keeps things clean.19 -
So looking at React/Node and all the GitHub projects etc. It seems JS/Node is the current/next big language like Java, C++. Runs on everything, can build anything with it, and is well supported.
Sorta crazy thinking about it though since JS is old and used to be shit used by script kiddies...20 -
Today was a bad dev day working on a shitty React project. Not that React in itself is bad, but it can be hell to work with when the code is a big pile a crap full of anti pattern code. I spent the day refactoring to try to fix a bug, but to no avail. It would take days if not weeks to put some order in this mess and to prevent such bugs.6
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I was minding my own business, fixing merge conflicts for my project lead when it struck.
There, in the middle of a React.js component, was a table, used not for displaying data, no, but for styling a form, which was not a form, but a series of table rows.
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I get it. Hooks prevent code repetition. But personally I hate them. I don’t know why. I just don’t like writing them. Maybe it’s because I like writing “this”. Weird, right?3
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yeah we use isomorphic async hydrated SSR pseudo-rendering with edge-server chunked ES module CSS-in-JS-in-CSS ESNext TypeScript interop through GraphQL in react-native-web transpilation to react-dom in NextJS isomorphic rendering context React hooks
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I think the reason most people hate frontend these days can be summed up by the fact that the frontend of my fairly simple React webapp is about 850 loc while the entire Express and MongoDB server is a mere 234 loc
God damn frontend is a lot of work these days6 -
Front end web development :
In 7 the standard : HTML
In First semester : HTML , CSS , BOOTSTRAP
Now : HTML , CSS , BOOTSTRAP , JS , SASS , JSX , REACT , JS libraries and what not . It's seriously very deep . -
Just been to a hackathon and made a react native app with lots of shenanigans without having used js before. Feels good :)2
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Got to love this posting. The title says React JS developer but they are looking for someone who knows angular. I am confused.
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> wanting to add an embed google maps to a website I'm working on for fun, with React
> Check the API documentation, excepted their iframe they create from your needs, not much info about how to set in a a js framework
> decide to check if anyone has already created something with React
> They did! 1 american dude, one polish, one last from idk where
> The rest is basic doc so let's try each of them
> Errors, errors everywhere
> Screens stays awefully white
> Spend 2 hours checking, checking and checking again each library
> Each of them have a different problem
> Fuck this, let's copy the iframe thingy from Google's doc, adapt 1 or 2 things because of React and run npm
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Wow React js is pretty cool and easy.
Let's build a Raspberry Pi pins selector using radio buttons.
Well, nevermind.2 -
God I hate React so bad
I get the hype but omg it is so confusing
Literally everytime I try adding something nothing works and I have to troubleshoot, EVERYTHING is a problem
And don't even get me started on REACT + TYPESCRIPT
IMO VueJS is just a smoother nicer experience overall7 -
Im a complete back end guy, decided to learn a js framework......
var whatToLearn = rand("angular", "react", " vue");
Suggestions..... :/24 -
Betrayals and Affairs ..
After trying development with vanilla js, then with the help of jQuery, then AngularJS, then Angular, then Vuejs, then React,
I spent the last 3-4 years of my life loving React and devoting all my frontend projects to React. React was so simple and straightforward and I ... I committed to it
but, I recently checked out Svelte, and maybe i shouldn't have let curiosity take the better of me but i did and, im heartbroken to say, I can no longer love react the same way. as nice as react was, like in any relationship, we had some ups and downs, i got bothered by some little details that i learned to live with, but Svelte .. Svelte solved these little twirks and it just felt even simpler...
I created a new Vite project today, and it asked me what framework to initialize, and i kept hopping between React and Svelte. for 10 minutes i was thinking of all the history i shared with React, of how scary it is to commit to something new, but i clicked on Svelte.
I know i may have betrayed a commitment to React, but sometimes things pile up and i .. I had to listen to my heart
Forgive me and thank you for reading my confession2 -
What's a good hobby project for learning React Native? I come from MEAN and C#/Java.
Just realized I haven't done much coding outside of work recently.... need to get more up to date.
Also correct me if I'm rwrong but it's like Cordova and Electron right? Code is JS and CSS, run everywhere as a native app?2 -
!rant (okay somewhat it *is* a rant, idk)
So I recently got into using react-native to make an android application, with another partner of mine.
I use a Mac while my partner uses Windows
Now since I was the one who suggested to use react-native, I started the project on my system, set it up (took some efforts though), and put the code on a git repo.
My partner cloned the repo, and it stopped working. Bummer.
The exact same code worked perfectly well on my system, but didn't work on his windows.
When he made a new project on his system, it didn't work on my system.
The error that kept occurring was EISDIR on both our systems.
Is react-native not meant to work for development on different platforms or is windows just a bitch as usual? -
I haven't done any front end stuff in a long time (last time was before jQuery was popular), and since I had some free time lately I decided to check out React and see what it's all about. Turns out that first I had to go trough one week of reading about node.js, npm, jsx, es6/es2015, babel, webpack (and probably something else), but I finally got to React. So far I had no problems with any of this but I have no fucking idea how most of this stuff works behind the curtains and I'm scared.3
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I don't know what to think of Vue 3 Composition API anymore. At first I hated it because it's nothing but one big ole rip off of React, and I hate React so much; its hook system is the most disgusting anti-pattern I've ever seen in the entire JS ecosystem. This gave me the incentive to try out Svelte instead, but after doing so, I look back at Vue 3 and noticed that they're kinda similar... why are so many JS devs allergic to classes? You can have much better written code that way. Idk, I'm waiting for vue-class-component and vue-property-decorator to fully migrate. In the mean time, if I'm gonna be forced to write composition based code, I might as well use Svelte.3
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Web developers, please recommend a tech stack. I have work experience in Laravel, Angular and Node Express. Personal small experience only for Vue and React.
Frontend: Angular, React or Vue?
Backend: Node Adonis JS or PHP Laravel?
CSS framework: Angular Material(angular), Material-UI, Tailwind CSS or Bootstrap?
This is for a personal project API based. What frontend backend tech stack are you using right now? Thanks!24 -
There are lots of Angular and React jobs here in my area. Very few Vue jobs here (like 1 to 5 maximum job posts I have seen). I'm a PHP dev and it seems most companies are shifting to full stack JS development (MERN, MEAN, NodeJS + Express JS, etc.) along with some mobile development (ionic, cordova, etc)
I have no choice but to study both Angular and React. Supply and demand.
But between Angular and React, I prefer Angular.
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Why the fuck nobody talks about Multi-page apps?! We went from a Web where everything was Multi-page server-rendered, and now everything for Web developers is "Single-page apps".
What about websites who can't do that? Not everything can be a single-page app. Only my uncle's restaurant website, or something which is TRULY a full app. No half choices.
If your website is a multi-page app/portal which actually PRELOADS data, instead of doing 100 fetch to an API within a page that is full of loading bars, well, your life is a pain.
When you want a first contentful paint which isn't a white page, well, your life is a pain.
What are React, Vue, Ember, Angular (let's exclude Svelte and Marko) going to do about Multi-page apps and SSR?
React-router sucks to me. It's performance is weak and it's useful only when you have an SPA with multiple sections which can be treated as pages (e.g. A single SPA divided in tabs).
Server-side rendering is the worst pain ever made by humanity, in React (and prob Vue, I didn't try but I can bet). And even when made easier from libs like Svelte and Marko, I (personally) can't get it to be faster enough compared to a traditional website without a JS framework and with a templating engine.
Anyways, if there's anything that I learnt from React, is to stay away from Next.js. Perfect, beautiful, mess.
All JS frameworks just seem to bloat the code and make it worse and slower, even though they're REALLY helpful.
Why? Why everyone loves them if their downsides are so clear? Why 3 projects out of 3 I made (1 React SSR, 1 Vue, 1 Marko SSR) are and will stay painfully slow and bloated, full of shit, even if in 2020 we should have evolved with the famous three shaking, with the famous lazy loading, etc.?
I am just frustrated.
And let's not even talk about Webpack, Rollup, Lasso, those module bundlers shit which are harder to configure and understand than finding a needle in a haystack.
Lasso was the easiest to configure but I anyways can't understand it. Webpack seems it was made to handle SPAs, as any tool in this freaking world, and not even considering an easy way to integrate multiple bundles for multiple pages (I know it's pretty easy, but with component sharing between pages and big unique bundles Next.js handles it soooo bad it feels like hell).
Am I the only one?
Sorry for the long rant. I just needed to rant right now.17 -
PHP why do people hate you ? personnaly i like React but i prefer vanilla js 😍
Can anyone tell me why people hate PHP. He is a good guy, i think 😅
exit;9 -
How the hell am I meant to get a new job in Edinburgh/Glasgow so I can learn React/Angular/Vue when no-one will hire someone without experience in those frameworks?!
I was in 2 roles back to back and in that time, every single Front End Development role now available in the market requires commercial experience in React/Angular/Vue in order to proceed.
Even the 18k Grad/Junior Development roles require commercial experience in some sort of JS Framework yet I'm certainly not a Grad/Junior.
HOW DOES ANYONE USE IT COMMERCIALLY IF THEY'VE GOT NO EXPERIENCE.
I'm doomed.
For the record, I'm a Front End Developer with 3 Years of experience with personal study experience in React.2 -
Has anyone used Elm for a non-trivial project? If so, what is your experience? Know about any sources that delve into architecting larger apps?
I'm really looking to escape JS and React on the front end for a change, and what I've seen about Elm so far is just beautiful.1 -
Wow it's been years since I've been on dev rant. Awesome to see it still going.
I'm a react dev now ... Like all the other JS developers in the world4 -
Why isn't Vue.js more popular? (it's not rhetoric, I actually don't know)
During the last weeks I've been learning the basics of the more popular JS frameworks and from the ones I saw, Vue seemed like the best option (lightweight, virtual DOM, simple documentation, alternative to React Native). Nonetheless, React & Angular are more widely used by companies and personal projects. Does anyone know why that is?1 -
been lurking @ Rants for some time and want to thank you all for some great laughs.
Now I come to seek knowledge.
Studying computer science and all we learn are java at this point.
I want some frontend and was looking at React and realized I need to learn js first.
So, best way of learning js coming from java.
found javascript30.com worth it?11 -
Why is there no VueJS job requirements in my area? It is all about Angular and React. Quite sad my favorite JS Framework is not a favorite here.
Guess I'll be forced to study Angular or React for job requirements purposes only *sigh* 😩 It is like - forced eating the only available food that you don't like in order to survive. Oh well supply and demand.
I haven't seen any VueJS requirements yet in all the job posts that I browsed 😕11 -
As a vue fan who has to work with react - I don't understand the appeal of the latter. Everything seems just pointlessly dotted with boilerplate, grossly over-engineered (if that's what I should call solutions like the react approach to CSS-in-JS) but at the same time very clunky.
Honestly, the only convincing point for using React that I've heard is about it being backed by Facebook - but, on the other hand, After having to work with some facebook IT solutions and knowing the shit they could pull with their APIs and stuff, I wouldn't count it as too big of an upside.
Why didn't you switch from react to vue?17 -
I hate how React is used almost everywhere nowadays. Especially when single-page applications are used for purposes that don't actually benefit from them.
Perhaps I'm just old-fashioned, but I want websites to work even with client-side JS disabled. At least sites like Amazon don't rely on it, and work just fine. Progressive enhancement is the way to go.4 -
Someone please tell me why react sees if(x = y) as valid js. That typo basically broke my app for 3 weeks and I didn't figure it out untill now. It set all my states to the same value. Fuck me 😑19
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I remember studying up on web dev by myself, got advanced into php and all frontend stuff js, jquery, css, html. Coz all jobs in the country wanted those exact stuff. I got a job, 1.5 years later tried to look for other jobs, everyone wanted react, angular, vue, node... fucking market outdates u as u are working. Dont u hate that6
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To all who were influenced by the React license thing, watch this:
https://youtu.be/hnHsZQ1JDII
It's a really good explanation of the situation and how software patents and licenses work
PS. FunFunFunction does really cool videos about JS and functional programming so also check out his other stuff if you're into that kind of thing2 -
The getting started of react native sucks big time.
If you don't want to display a completely centered text then go fuck yourself or what?
I mean there isn't even a howto on platform-independently not overlapping the fucking status bar. Everyone must've faced this problem when starting, but the only answer is an 8 times upvoted answer on SO telling me to add a hardcoded padding. What.
Where did this whole thing come to..🙁
Back in the days books about c didn't even start with more than 4 lines of code on the 70th page.
And when you google things about it it feels like you doing something totally wrong but its like the first thing a normal dude would do, what if i don't want shit centered bro i feel so useless and dumb i friggin hate that shit just fucking tell me what the fucking fuck to do!😫
It bugs me so hard cus i didn't even know a View is able to stick out on top of the app it doesn't make no sense to me the whole world is breaking apart12 -
React Native, Flutter, Xamarine, Cordova hope all of you fucking burn in hell! Piece of shit solutions...
Just want to simply enable remote JS debuggin but the fucking app stops reloading when that shit is turned on. Now how the fuck am I supposed to know what the fuck is wrong with my code, disable remote JS debugging and app loads again.
Fuck this shit!6 -
TL;DR: if you are using using react native, use uglify-es@3.2.2, any newer version might break your project
I wonder how many react native projects the boys at Mishoo fucked up, mine included.
I spent 5 work days to find an unrelated issue on RN's git which had the solution to my issue in the comments which was totally different from what was being presented in the issue.
Fucking aye.
I love javascript, but packaging really is its downfall.1 -
Took an interview, where the interviewee was trying to spin tales around react fiber and preact. I was like sure, I just was watching React Conf 2017 yesterday, and he shut up.
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To the reactjs-centered fucks who develop the popular web component viewing software called storybook: have you ever heard about semver?
89 alpha/beta/rc releases for a minor update 6.3 -> 6.4 with "100's of fixes and enhancements" "in preparation of the HUGE 7.0 release". Gee I wonder will it have 1000's of bugfixes? How bug-ridden is this software?
Every minor upgrade since 5.x is backwards-incompatible and requires a day of frustration finding out in how many more fucking NPM packages you split your codebase just because it's cool. I know move fast and break things, but some of us have other things to do than resolving node_modules incompatibilities you know. "No just hit 'npx sb upgrade' you say". I did, I really did! And the browser showed a blank screen of death with tons of cryptic React errors, it really did! Thank God you abstracted away all your dependencies in that sb command, now you can't even read the docs about what could have gone wrong with a specific sub-package. You have @storybook/html but the docs redirect to React pages, so good luck if you use something else
This is so sad... like.. the IDEA of storybook is great. But why did faith put the capacity to develop such a tool into the hands of people who think the world centers around React and JSX.. HTML should have been the default, and then you build on top of that for your fav framework, not the other way around -
finally picking up React JS. When setting up webpack I fucked up on the last step in the tutorial I was using which wasn't even needed it just made requiring CSS modules not need style!CSS! Infront of the file name.. everything prior was working beautifully and I was ready to start setting up React. after attempting to be more efficient I couldn't even get webpack to run and thus the test project failed to run on local host. Now to re watch bad tutorials that assume you know everything because they're still more detailed than the others I've found. :| ugh
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Hello devs. This happens to be my first rant. And I got a question to start off.
I'm looking for an existing public/open-source React project which is not too hard to understand and has a good folder/file structure and code structure. Something that gives me an idea of how a good production level code and project should be.
Any recommendation is appreciated. Can be your own project too.
Thank you 😊.10 -
I've said it before and I'll say it again, React CSS-in-JS is the way forward. Styled-jsx is brilliant.3
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The entire react "return of a useEffect is its cleanup" is one of the most retarded design decisions ever. Hello, you can't have async functions. Do you want to return early and still have a cleanup? Good luck, hope you like debugging. Who the fuck came up with this idea and what was it inspired by.4
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We need a Rant Con , a place where all the react, node, angular, .net , js, docker and all other languages, people come and rant for 2 days straight4
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Only in React packages...
When you follow the documentation to the exact dot and you get an error and nothing works.
And the stack trace gives you an error coming out of some deep async call, made many calls before the error.
Therefore the stack trace has nothing to tell you.
Equivalent of a brick falling on your head, just bad luck, who said programming should be deterministic anyway...1 -
!rant
So Today I decided to Learn on React native, something during set up. Decided To clean Node_modules , the file size is 34.45GB
(o.O) WTF ?
I am not a big fan of Node Js or react, Can Someone explain to me why the file is so large?8 -
Is there any modals for angular 2?? The ng2-bs4-modal gives unexpected token error. I swear after this project I am never using angular. Worst framework ever.
React Js all the way.2 -
The JavaScript community should invent the word "outd" to use instead of "outdated" just to make sure they give forewarning about frameworks and tools going out of fashion, because by the time they spell the full word it's already too late and a post-mortem announcement.
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IMHO Rich Harris (of the Rollup and Svelte fame) is a rock star. I think I'd rant less of more people would follow his methods.
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Question..
Is it safe to stay with PHP or do you think js (in backend) is the future?
Php (laravel,..)
Js ( Angular, react,..)14 -
I've been learning java back end web since November last year. A month ago I've tried JS/React and have fallen for it. All my back end guys are hating on me now, because, as they say, I'm not "an intellectual" anymore but a just JS pleb 🌩️🌩️
Wrong people to talk to i guess :sigh:18 -
Javascript is actually a weird language which I dunno why I like a lot.
new Date() in NodeJS gives a different value, while new Date() in the browser console(so react js and normal js) gives a different value.
I dunno if my online searching skills are bad but I didn't find anyone addressing this online. Lol I had to create a manual work around for it then.7 -
Actually a WordPress developer does both backend and frontend. They should know JS, PHP, react (for Gutenberg) and still some others think they are not programmers.
Next time someone tries to bully me about being a WordPress developer, I will not be quite. Even my friends.3 -
React, it's declarative way of doing things, and the functional programming methodology it prefers.
Realized how much I've moved on from for-loops and class/object instance to maps, filters and immutability/observers when I worked on a Laravel project after so long and found myself forced to do things in the, erm, "PHP" way, despite spending my initial year and a half of programming working exclusively in PHP.
Sure, there's Class Components and imperative techniques in React but I had blissfully settled into using the flexible nature of doing things enabled by both native JS and React, with hooks, Lodash/Ramda and (almost fanatically) pure functions1 -
Some time ago Ex-Boss, who's also a Dev, asks for some opinions about which JS framework we should use in our next project. I gave my 2 cents about react JS and he said no, react won't be any good, we must use Aurelia because it is backed up by Rob etc etc. At that moment I thought: wth is he asking, if he has already made its mind on Aurelia? As at that moment react was getting some hype and I knew the features and advantages, I kept going. Boss, react has shadow DOM. React has this, it has that etc. This discussion ended up with him raising his voice, telling me he is much more experienced than me and telling me to GTFO. That's what I did. And thanks God I did it. I respect other opinions and beliefs but If I'm asked to give my own opinion I will, even if they don't like it.
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JS scrub doing a course using React. Necessary scripts provided in the course are only available as online .js files, not node packages. Keeps failing no matter how I try importing. Trying to find alternatives, but seems like no-node packages are only remnants of the past.
Get tips like this: "You should take a look at how you can combine js files with built-in modules." -
Here I am at half past midnight with a pencil and a pair of scissors printing grayscale metalsmith js business cards and manually cutting them for the upcoming jsworldconference.
Not pretending it has a chance against the giant amount of sponsoring the likes of Vue and React get, but hey I will have tried!
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How do you feel about using TypeScript with React? I appreciate the benefits, but, as every snippet of React code everywhere on the web is vanilla JS,I just don't want the cognitive overhead.
Yes, I know TS is JS, but, if I'm not going to use the features, why bother? I'd want to strongly type props, state, etc.
What's the status of TypeScript support in the React ecosystem (eg Router, MUI, etc.)?
I'm kinda hoping Reason will get some traction as the type inference is much better, but, will that happen? Or is that going to fizzle so it's a choice between TS and JS?
Appreciate any thoughts on this---including those from anyone who's in the same boat.
Looking for views on TS in React ecosystem---no need to sell me on TS in general.6 -
Just noticed that my Recycle Bin had about 130 MB of stuff in it. Peeked in and I soon found out why.
Turns out I didn't hit Shift + Delete when deleting node_modules from a React project...3 -
Finally I introduce webpack to my kotlin beast... Say hello to react.. she is nice and pretty she will be best partner for you ..
I am developing my server side with kotlin and spring I needed some robust js for the fronted so I added react.. -
Wrote an entire complex React component in about an hour. I'm talking it fetches data, manipulates state, renders child components, has some CSS-in-JS, and even uses the React componentWillUnmount method
I'm tired now
You ever look back on a piece of code and think 'damn, did I really write that?'4 -
Mate asked me if Electron.js la good to build a desktop app. I suggested to write backend Api and so on in java and front-end in js using Angular or React.
What are your opinion about electron.js?9 -
What's your opinion on TypeScript? I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's worth using for a React side project5
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Found a JS framework that is also very fast (according to their website), just like React, Vue, Angular ...etc. (link: https://aurelia.io/)
Are they like Java and C# ==> Apple and Orange? or are they Orange & Orange Pro?
Someone enlighten me please :)8 -
Implementing a for loop in js because I need to skip some elements in a map as I transform. I'm feeling dirty
* cries in functional *4 -
Not a js expert. I'm trying to learn a new js framework so I'm stuck between angular and react. I'm a Django dev, so I'll be mostly using this framework in my Django apps. Which one should I learn? I'm migrating from jquery so please don't be harsh at me 😅7
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A new js framework has come up with all features similar to React but of just 3kb. For the love of God, when is this madness going to stop?!
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Spent the whole night trying to get a react native component to push a csv file to multer in the backend.
Tried using fetch, then dependencies, then xhr.
Realised I had to create formdata. No such documentation on the internet.
Used God knows what after 3 hours, suddenly things are working.
I'll never be able to get answers in life -_- -
So maybe stack overflow is better for this...but it's kind of ranty too so here goes.
Any react + typescript devs here? Cause I did something dumb. I ejected the project because I needed to build a custom express implementation...long story short, I can't run a webpack react dev server or use hot reload. Which is a PAIN! If I wanted to wait for a full TS and react static recompile after changing a css prop....I wouldn't be in the web game!!
Has anyone else had this and fixed it??1 -
No Jokes/Rant this time..
All React.js lovers.. follow this blog from one of the creators of React https://overreacted.io
Found it really cool.. even for folks not working on reactjs.
Ignore, if following already!3 -
Quick JS tip
If you want to split a string into characters, you can use the ES6 spread operator
If you have
const name = 'react-dev'
You can just spread it like this:
const charsInName = [...name]5 -
i'm starting to like reactjs over vanilla, but i can't help but remember how it suffers on npm's dependency hell. i mean just look at what happened before at left-pad. it makes you feel like the entire system is so fragile.3
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TL;DR, which is the best JS templating library?
I've been using React for a while since I like the library's ideology and how simple designing templates is. But for the sake of future technologies, I've been wondering if I could get out of React and start coding with native JS.
The only problem is constructing the DOM, which gets super ugly with vanillaJS. So, I want to ask the experienced members of devRant which library would best suit my use case.6 -
If somebody wants to become famous for the work they do fast. Join DIY projects such as React-Native.
You can become so famous for developing a highly demanded component, since there arent many well maintained this days.
I guess it is the case for many new and fresh projects.
React is awesome and react-native is the beast for cross platform development! You gonna love it guys! Jump in! -
I've not used linters on sublime text so far. And now struggling to find a good linter for sublime for writing React JS.
And I am not comfortable to move to atom or VSCode.
Can anyone suggest me some good linters?1 -
I'm Angularjs and .NET developer. I'm planning to learn addition skill / tool.
Options are:
1) MEAN Stack
2) React (and related)
3) ML / Data Science
4) Django
Why Mean?
Because it'd easy for me to grasp and I can easily get projects for it.
Why React?
Always curious about React, because of the hype maybe. But really wanna learn. And some gap for React developers.
Why ML/DS?
Tbh, I suck at Mathematics and Statistics. Why ML / DS just because it sound fascinating.
Why Django?
Enough with JS JS JS, what else?
Please give your suggestions :)6 -
Say what you will but React JS development is utterly exhausting. Every React project is a totally new stack and there is no consensus in the ecosystem.That is how I feel after having worked on 5 big SPA React JS projects over the course of 5 years.
The structure of these projects was all but similar: most used HOC's, some render props, functions-as-a-child, hooks or rather component lifecycles, some used container-components, some Redux, others sprinkled business logic & state all over, and yet others use a mix of server-side rendering and "hydration"...
I dangerouslySetInnerHTML on LazyExoticComponents, and dared not useEffect on the DO_NOT_TOUCH_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED root property. Hooks embrace functions, but without sacrificing the practical spirit of React, you see.
I didn't make this up. It's verbatim from the code and the docs.
This is not web development, this is at best a tedious fantasy multiplayer game or at worst, a costly joke.5 -
We're using a setup with c# dotnet backend and js (React) front end... and do one in VS and the other in VS code. Any way to get one IDE to handle both properly? It's a huge pain but my manager told me that's just how they do it4
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React Hooks question: those states we create in functional components, are they just for UI purposes or does it have use for overall the app? Please enlighten me!1
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FUCK ME!#@$%@ 6 hours now, trying to make a production build of my react/redux app but FUCKING envify sets NODE_ENV after the imported libraries are transformed!! IT WORKED TWO DAYS AGO WHAT HAPPENED :((2
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What JS framework you don't like but you were forced to study it due to job requirements? I like vue but there are only few job postings that require it. Most jobs here are angular and react. I know angular now and currently learning react because of job requirement reasons hehe!😄3
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Why TF is it easier to make a modal component with vanilla js compared to react? Like is ReactDOM the only way to add shit dynamically?7
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When you love react you gotta hate angular and when love angular you have to hate react. It can't be a 2 sided love. It's just what I feel.4
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finishing existing projects, resurrecting abandoned projects with dev friends from uni (where we had actual customers calling us and saying they wanna pay us, but we are idiots and couldn't come up with effective pricing)
meanwhile learn proper JS (and node.js, also getting from noob to pro in vue.js/vuex and react/redux)
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Of the people on here who work in a frontend JS framework: What do you tend to use/prefer? Vue.js vs React vs Angular12
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I haven't been developing any web projects for 2-3 years (Since jQuery is the only well known js library). I put my focus on other platforms.
Now I am going to be back again, and there are some angular, vue, and react going on (despite of the other js framework/library #duh).
So, how do I choose between angular, vue, or react? I have no idea.5 -
https://remotelyawesomejobs.com/job...
Looking at the "ideally you should" sections doesn't make me feel this is a junior position:
You are passionate about making data useful to the lay-person, there is no data you couldn’t derive visual meaning from. D3.js is your go to and Canvas is your friend.
You build components in your sleep, rock solid and performant using atomic design patterns.
You bend CSS processors to your will or throw them out and code by hand.1 -
!Rant
I have my first interview on Wednesday for an insanely good opportunity.
It's a junior role through and through, 10 weeks training and bringing up to speed.
They said don't prepare anything for the interview, but I have been panicking.
It's all for JS (React, Node).
What should I be thinking about? What should I be prepping?1 -
So the next Flutter event is on December 4th which means Flutter 1.0 is around the corner. Flutter is amazing with a very neat idea it has ReactJS like state management and everything is a Widget even the app itself. So i was thinking what else could we expect? React Native has Flutter, but what about React JS? I think Google might introduce a Competitor for ReactJS something like Flutter Web or FlutterJS which can work on parallel/similar to Flutter but for the web of course, and also maybe give some news on the Fuchsia. What do you think? :)5
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To all the fullstack and webdevs here:
1. Does anyone know how can I implement progressive rest call in nodejs? (As in knowing the percentage of the loaded data)
2. Can anyone point me to the best way to create a safe admin page in React or Nodejs?
I do need the admin page to be heavily modified and to be full of JS logic1 -
Looking for some advice from anyone who has used and transitioned away from Material-ui (React).
https://material-ui.com/
Tasked with removing the Material-ui used in our react project. Old team took shortcuts like using these types of frameworks at every step and the software is brittle.
Any advice from anyone who has ripped Material-ui out of a project.
We are doing this to move away from CSS-in-JS and this is conflicting with every fucking element in the fucking project.
<TextField> with it's special internal props
<Buttons> with its fucking "classes" prop that one take fucking CSS-in-JS
Any advice or just say some random shit or post a GIF for the lulz.
Peace.2 -
I'm all about the good vibes
V — I grind my Trintellix with my $1200 Lyn Weber Workshops HG-1 Premium Coffee Grinder™
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I would like to learn how to do a full decentralized application and smart contracts, from the front end (react js) to the back end (c++) on the eos.io platform
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I want to write my own JS framework, which is ideal for me and is very opinionated, so that I don't need to stand under the hard choice of React, Angular, and Angular.7
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I mainly using react/svelte + node on making web projects, but I wanted to learn new things outside JS environment. Should I learn RoR(Ruby) or Phoenix(Elixir)?
P.S. I will learn the language first before jumped into the framework6 -
> be you, paypal, a billion dollar company
> your react paypal button dist js file, which is a button that makes api calls, is over 1300 lines long
> 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡2 -
Focus...
I am on vacations and I thought: well, let me take a look at Shopify. People uses that, may be learning it could be good.
So I created a Dev account, a sample store and opened the docs.
"Oh, you should use this and that JS library and work with React (link to react)"
So I clicked the link and now I am learning React...5 -
Coz a question like this in SO will get me banned......
I know HTML, CSS, JS, React in frontend.
I know Java as backend including database connectivity and all.
Should i learn a more demanding backend language lile PHP?
Or should I further learn frontend technologies like Angular, D3.js, and other frameworks?15 -
Guys.. i am currently pursuing BCA , and i am also learning web development with Html,css,js, jQuery,bootsrap. But i see the popularity of react nowadays.. So should i must learn react or first learn simple js or jQuery first as always?7
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So for my work i need to build an app (preferably react native) which runs completely inside a webview. Is there any sane way to get the Webview to display a simple Web App made with standard Js? Im losing my mind over it5
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I see a lot of React devs (ab)using the array.map function in cases where a forEach would be more suitable (e.g. without assigning the result, and without return statements). What are your thoughts on this?
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Got in a great company wherein I will be transformed from php to mean/mern stack. Improvise adapt overcome.
Will apply php best practices in the JS world.
After mean/mern, study react native or flutter. I like flutter but in my company there are only react native projects. Hhmm maybe because flutter is just new. Exciting future indeed 💪8 -
I think that Android native is great, but it takes too much time for a tiny progression, i might use one of the frameworks such as flutter or react native or even nativescript since I'm learnings vue js currently.
Any help or advice?6 -
When you join a React JS SPA project months after the start to discover that 2 CSS grid systems with totally different breakpoints have been in use in parallel since 5 months, hidden by layer upon layer of abstraction, and that no dev bothered to fix, let alone notice.
#FML -
I just spent the last half-hour fishing a bug that happened to be caused by excessive react code lately. 😭😭😭
I wrote onSubmit in a vanilla JS file rather than onSubmit😭😭😭😭6 -
CSS, I particularly don't hate it but i don't love it either. As a React developer I love JS but I don't really like CSS based UI development i mean it's not bad but just level of satisfaction i get with a running logical thing in JS vs creating some UI stuff with CSS does varies. So I want to improve my CSS skills. Anyway can anyone suggest in what topic order I should learn CSS, I can do some basic stuff with flexbox and sometimes with grid but I think I lack some essential concepts.
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😢... Built a mobile app with React Native, the app implements Navigator api in JS to get coordinates. It works perfectly on 6.0 and below, but fails on 7.0 to be specific, Nokia 2 (it returns the same coordinates regardless of the location). How to go about this? What other library can I use to get coordinates?
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When I see in a project a custom-written 96 lines long file that implements linking on a website I seriously reconsider all the life choices that led me to this point.2
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Could someone point out how much a React developer can make per week in Indian? Let’s say within 3 years experience. Longer than that seems not very realistic 🤔5
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Is there a good tree view js plugin similar to jQuery.fancytree ?
I found alternatives that would work with react, Vue, etc but I'm looking for a framework free plugin. -
So I'm not sure what I should learn next. Developers love vue more than react. But I prefer to work remotely and I lost the count of how many job ads require React js experience. Every employer wants react. Would you still suggest to learn vuejs despite this? Right now I know javascript and I abuse jquery (front end developer here)2
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Never got why react and all those js frameworks are so popular - css and jquery will load faster and do whatever you want them to not to mention all the jquery plugins you can use for free from fancy box to owl carousel. Sometimes i feel techies like something just because its new4
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What's the best mobile development framework coming from Angular perspective? Ionic? Should I also study React and React Native? 🧐
How about flutter? How about in terms of job demands? I'm a PHP and JS guy4 -
Advice needed please.
I have an interview friday for a front end developer. Currently I am junior dev with just a full stack certiticate.
It’s the typical skillset requiremnts JS HTML and CSS with familiar with React, Angular and Vue.
As far as languages I really do not know JS but I know php. Taken a JS class in school found it to be fairly simple and that was my second language I learned.
How do I spend the next 48 hours? Learning JS? Spending time going over frameworks? Refreshing HTML/CSS?
I am much stronger back end than front end but I am hoping this will be more of a front end engineer job requiring the configuration of node packages and such.1 -
Why When I use devRant API, it works perfectly on insomnia but not in Postman !!
Did anyone faced this?
I wrote js client (React Native) and it's giving same results of Postman3 -
How do you know when you’re overengineering something? Like, you look a project and know you can build this with vanilla JS but the creative team wants it built in React because “components are better”. What do you do?
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trying to build a mobile app,
try to use angular + nativescript as angular is a big thing.
get throw f-ing components and modules at my face like i need 3 files to make any progress.
switched to react native, everything is honky dory
what are your views on angular and why would you use it over react ? (real question )
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I would like to learn how to make a mobile app, but I do not know what to choose. Some say java, some say kotlin, then some react native and some flutter. I just wanted to ask for advice. And btw Laravel, Js, Jquery, Ajax and Cordova Apache are all I know so far.6
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Best: Learning React JS
Worst:
Having to rush an online training module for our app in a weekend.
It was so raw that I had to alter the database by hand every time we needed a different training.
Awful, stressing, and boring. -
!rant
I want to learn a new js framework, thinking about vue , angular or react. Can anyone suggest me anything between the three and why.4 -
I love JS but I hate JS Frameworks. All of them, but react by passion. I used a bit vue with Laravel but meh... Angular i did not tried.7
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The things that make me wanna hate React Native is that the project folder becomes so BIG, makes it so hard to remove the whole project folder, including node_modules.
I really hate Dart but liking Flutter only because the project folder - along with the necessary code gets created pretty faster than React Native. On the other hand, React Native takes ages to load all the node_modules.
So, I'm asking the experts here, who have worked in both frameworks, should I leave RN and go for Flutter?
Cause, I don't wanna waste a handful of time every time just to create a RN project.
If I should stick with RN, please tell me a way so that I don't have to waste the time just to create a RN project.
Thanks3 -
Spent this week working React into one of my projects. Works fine but I don't see Any real productivity gains over modular typescript with a good js view engine.
Does it get better?3 -
What do you guys recommend to read when starting Electron project with React and Typescript. I'm kinda stuck. :/
I've already make a simple Electron app with Js, but few people recommended me to try React, Redux and Typescript. But idk where to start.
P.S: Tried the boilerplate, reading docs.. I need something that explains what does what and how.4 -
uhh im pretty sure everyone here has seen my html and css skills. ill be back until i don't make trash out of thin air. and yes. ill be learning react :) and maybe cutting off js soon. for typescript its for my own good!3
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So I may have a little more free time this weekend, not sure what kind of project to start. I am wanting to use an entire JS stack. Any one have any ideas?2
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Most JS/TS integrations are more customizable if they are used with React, but not Angular. Why is that? Framework popularity?4
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Has anyone here heard of Ember, the JS framework? If so, would you say it's better than React and why?1
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want to dispatch an action from clicking a button, but dispatch() doesn't exist
add @connect to make dispatch() exist
other stuff crashes because @connect is actually a macro for a wrapper instead of the decorator it pretends to be
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Been tryna clone this website using react js instead of the normal html and css for like 5days now, and these guys keep changing and updating the layout 😩😩😩 whyyyy meeee??????
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!rant
I have worked with VueJS for some time, and i like the fact that i can split html, js & scss.
Now i am going to work on a project with React, and i can’t find a propper answer on what is the best way to split the code there.
Does anyone have experience in this?3 -
Please I need advise on new technologies - Language, framework to learn? Currently I am proficient in Ruby,JavaScript - REACT JS/REDUX/ RUBY ON RAILS/ for web application.
Please you suggestion will be very helpful 🙏🏻5
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